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From: Justice USA
To: Justice and All Pro Americans
Subject: MY BEAUTIFUL NEW YORK CITY
Date: Tue Mar 12 17:20:32 2002

Message:
Thanks for asking Justice, glad to be back. I have been in the 
city lately and it is standing as TALL and as POWERFUL as ever 
and my fellow New Yorkers are walking their proud New York 
Strut.   I am very ANXIOUS for them to start building as soon as 
they finish with ground zero.  There is STILL a lot of working 
going on down there.  The huge cranes still uncovering bodies, 
etc. and I have also been to the site on Staten Island and seen 
the rest of the World Trade Center stuff that has been removed 
to that.   My heart still breaks for all of the fine people that 
died in there, REGARDLESS of their race, etc. and I was healing 
pretty good until I saw that documentary on TV about 9-11.  I 
feel it was WAY too soon to show it. Reopening wounds that are 
still bleeding, but it was interesting though.  The few people 
that were killed in the first attack should have had this same 
type of response as we have now.  Doesnt matter if it is three 
people or three thousand, we cannot let these sons of bitches 
take over.  Hope you are doing good too Justice.  I wish you 
could see the TOWERS OF LIGHT with me tonight, it would blow 
your mind and put a lump in your throat.  

From: Right said fred
To: everyone
Subject: hi
Date: Tue Mar 12 17:09:10 2002

Message:
Anyone remember me?
I can't believe this site is still going strong!
wow
Is E pluribus guy still here?
since i've been gone no planes have crashed ugh!
I flew to Chicago at Christmas and needed new underwear after
I'm off again in a few weeks so i hope you mussy's or should a 
say pussy's are not planning anything.
i think i p'd everyone off with my comments last time if i 
remember haahahahahah!

Anyway is Bin ladden still alive? we seem to be bombing the hell 
out of Afghanistan. He's probably works in a corner shop in 
Washington.

Shalom 


From: SISTER
To: BROTHER FRANKY
Date: Tue Mar 12 17:47:12 2002

Message:
AMEEN

From: SISTER
To:
Date: Tue Mar 12 18:13:57 2002

Message:
Secret societies
 
 

The Secret Societies have been present in the history of man for 
a very long time. It all started thousands of years ago with 
the "Brotherhood of the Snake", a secret society set up by an 
alien named Ea or Enki. This story is very carefully told in the 
Sumerian scriptures, which go back at least 6000 years. There it 
says man was created by draconian aliens, who came to this 
planet to exploit its resources - especially gold. But the work 
was heavy, so the alien race wanted someone else to do the hard 
work. Thus Ea, who was a brilliant scientist, created homo 
sapiens as a hybrid between a primitive earth life-form and the 
alien race.

First homo sapiens was only meant for slave labor and couldn't 
breed. Later on this was changed. Ea didn't like, though, how 
his created race was treated and wanted to enlighten them by 
telling them who they were and where they came from. He also 
wanted to tell them the well hidden truth that each individual 
is a spirit inhabiting a body and that after body death the 
spirit lives on and reincarnates on Earth.

Ea's superiors didn't agree to this, as they were afraid of 
chaos and turmoil, but Ea told them anyway. The early homo 
sapiens revolted against their Masters, but were forced to 
retire. Ea then started this secret society, the Brotherhood of 
the Snake, to enlighten people in secret. But he was discovered 
and judged by the alien laws, which meant that Ea was deported 
to Earth for eternity - to die here and be reborn here in 
endless cycles, using fragile, short living human bodies. If 
this is right, he might still be here ...

In the meantime, as time passed by, the "Brotherhood of the 
Snake" was infiltrated by the Draconian Master aliens and the 
knowledge was distorted to trap man instead of enlighten him. 
The Egyptian Era was in fact real "space opera", with aliens 
walking around among us, even taking the throne as pharaohs on 
mostly. By that time the Brotherhood was very infiltrated and 
its purpose to manipulate the masses, making them believe in 
false gods and masters.

In the background through all history there are the secret 
societies. The original Brotherhood soon split up in cults, when 
certain people on top were in disagreement with each other and 
different powers of control developed, with them even fighting 
each other (which still is the case today) totally above an 
ignorant population. They invented the different religions and 
sects and cults so man would be busy doing something else 
instead of looking into what the Brotherhood was doing. It was 
also a way to control people by not telling the truth about God 
and Jesus, so that people would miss the point and never be able 
to be set free. Religion has always been connected with guilt 
and punishment, which is NOT the way it is supposed to be. They 
put themselves in charge of the churches to entrap people and to 
spread conflicts between different belief systems. Most wars 
throughout history have been religious wars.

Out of the original Brotherhood came Freemasonry, the 
Rosicrucians, The Knight Templars, Ordo Templi Orientis, Knights 
of Malta and more. They all knew, on the highest grades, the 
truth about the origin of man and that we all are spiritual 
beings and thus immortal. They know God is the REAL and only 
source, but they distorted that power as we let them deceive us 
and used the power of God that we have inside of us for their 
evil purposes. This knowledge is a very well kept secret and 
they have done everything in their power to hide the truth from 
people, and one must say they succeeded quite well. People who 
for some reason or another have stumbled upon the road to truth 
has either been ridiculed, slandered or even killed.

Now you might say that the Freemasons, for example, is a charity 
organization and even Christian to its belief. Yes, that's what 
we're told and that is what most members of the secret society 
believe. Most people involved are good people, who are ignorant 
of what's going on upon the highest grades. Because up there is 
Satanism and worship of the dark forces. They don't serve God, 
they serve Satan or Lucifer and that is the key to what is 
happening in the world of today.

Adam Weishaupt (1748-1811). basically a Jew, converted to become 
a Catholic Priest and ended up starting a "new" secret society 
called the Illuminati. Actually it was not new at the time; it's 
been there long before then, but during Weishaupt's lifetime 
this organization was revealed publically. It's unclear if he 
was the master-mind behind it, but most researchers, including 
me, are more or less certain that Weishaupt was just a puppet 
for the Elite of the Freemasons.

The Freemasons had recently started a new branch of Freemasonry -
  Freemasonry of the Scottish Rite with its 33 degrees of 
initiation. It's still today one of the most powerful secret 
societies, including members within high politics, religious 
leaders, businessmen and other "useful" persons. Things point in 
the direction that Weishaupt was sponsored by the Rothschilds, 
who then were (and are) the heads of Freemasonry.

The Illuminati had its own grades ABOVE (or rather beside) the 
33 degrees of Freemasonry. Even persons who were initiated to 
the higher degrees of Freemasonry had no knowledge of the 
Illuminati grades - it was that secret. Up there Weishaupt 
planned the take-over of the planet, and he made up distinct 
targets for a One World Government and a New World Order. All 
this was written down in something called the "Protocols of the 
Elders of Zion", with an evil purpose to put the blame on the 
Jews(!) if something would leak.

And it did leak! A courier for the Illuminati was struck by 
lightning when he rode over a field and the Protocols were 
found, where the takeover was carefully written down. This was 
in The 1770's. Weishaupt and his Illuminati "Brothers" had to 
flee and work underground, as their organization was banned. It 
was decided that the name Illuminati should never be used 
officially again, but front groups should be used to fulfill the 
purpose of world domination, with the rest of the population 
made into slaves. One of the front groups were the Freemasons, 
who had a better reputation ...

It is believed that Weishaupt was killed by his Freemason 
Brothers, as he was unable to keep his mouth and still continued 
to use the name Illuminati. There could also have been other 
reasons.

The secret goal, however, survived Weishaupt and the Rothschilds 
were now heads of the Illuminati (and still are today, together 
with David Rockefeller). A good help to reach the goal came from 
the Freemason Cecil Rhodes, who in the 19th Century tried to 
build a One World Government with the British Empire on the top. 
This was of course sponsored by the Rothschilds and it was also 
Rhodes who created the Round Table, a secret society in itself, 
named after King Arthur's Round Table, where the Brotherhood 
Elite are gathering up to this day.

World War I and II were both attempts to take over. After the 
Second World War people were so tired of all this killing that 
they welcomed the United Nations, when it was founded. The 
official policy of the UN was to safeguard the peace, so nothing 
like WW II would ever happen again. But indeed the UN was 
another important front organization for the Illuminati, to 
unite the countries of the world into one. This led to the EU 
project, which anyone, with his eyes open, can see goes right 
into the direction of the biggest fascist state known to man, 
where each country gets less and less power and sovereignty.

By galloping inflation the International Bankers (read the 
Illuminati) have succeeded in making us believe that the only 
solution is a One Currency - the EMU. When that project is 
safeguarded, the Central European Bank (Illuminati) has all the 
power over the economy in Europe and can lead us in whatever 
direction they want. Some politicians are just stupid and 
ignorant, others are aware of facts and work for and with the 
Illuminati. The innocent people, being deceived, are the ones 
who will suffer the most. This is a betrayal beyond 
comprehension.

The EU then will expand into the United Nations of Africa, Asia 
and South America and the end phenomenon will be that all those 
United States will be united into one big fascist state, which 
will last in a thousand years, regarding to their occult belief. 
It's the Golden Age - the Age of AntiChrist.

The secret societies and the Illuminati believe in the power of 
symbols. The world is full of their magical and black magic 
symbols. The problem is, we are so used to seeing them all over 
the place, that we don't even think about it. The Illuminati 
believe that the more symbols around, the more magical power to 
them. The insignia of the Illuminati and the New World Order is 
the "Pyramid with the All-Seeing- Eye", which you can study on 
the back of the US One Dollar Bill(!) A few years ago this 
symbol was also on a series of stamps coming from the Vatican(!) 
The All-Seeing-Eye is the Eye of Horus, which is the Eye of 
Lucifer, and goes back to the Egyptian era. Other common symbols 
are the pentagram (five-pointed star), the hexagram (six-pointed 
star - The Star of David), the Swastika reveresed (the way 
Hitler used it) and the pyramid in general.

 


From: SISTER
To:
Date: Tue Mar 12 18:30:20 2002

Message:
THE SATANISTS
 
 

The secret societies controlled by the Illuminati, have secret 
grades of initiations. With Freemasonry you can't just walk in 
there if you want to be a member - you have to be suggested by 
at least two persons who are already members, and the person 
should be examined of his record before he's able to join. If 
only one person in the council says no to entership, the 
suggested person will not be permitted. So one can see that they 
select people carefully to see if he can be of any use to them.

Officially most societies are charity organizations, therefore 
most people join. They are also esoteric with grades of 
initiations, where every member has sworn loyalty foremost to 
the Brotherhood, which means if this person has a specific post 
in society (like a President for example), his first interest is 
with the Brotherhood and secondly with his post as President. So 
he has in fact double loyalties. A Brother in good standing 
should always be protected and cared for, as long as he is 
useful to the organization and follows its rules. If he flunks 
or doesn't keep his oaths, he will be made a horrible example of 
(even killed). It's very important that the secrets are kept.

Many Freemasons on the lower grades are actually very pleased to 
be a member. It's a tight "belonging-feeling" and he will learn 
a few secrets of this universe, which are not taught in school, 
and he's often enthusiastic and fascinated. One Freemason 
said: "Beside my wife, Freemasonry is the most important thing 
in my life ..." His wife, by the way, must never know anything 
about what her husband is doing within the society, as it's 
supposed to be kept secret, and women most often are not allowed 
into the societies. However there ARE a few societies especially 
for women. Then one can speculate how come that women are 
treated as less beings in the community of today, with lower 
wages for the same job etc. It's a man's world - it's the world 
of the Secret Societies!

With the purpose to create a positive front, the Brotherhood is 
very eager to recruit good beings - hopefully even celebrities - 
to speak good of them and defend them when necessary. And the 
less those people know about the real agenda, the more truthful 
this person will sound in his defense.

As time goes on, some of the members (not all though)  will 
enter higher and higher grades within the society, until he 
reaches the highest ones. But up there, a very careful selection 
is taken place. Before entering the upper grades a higher 
Brother demands the apprentice to spit on the cross(!) If the 
person refuses, due to his Christian belief, the higher Brother 
tells him he did the right thing and has showed his loyalty to 
his religion. But that Brother will never be permitted to enter 
the highest grades. He will always be met by excuses why he 
can't continue.

On the other hand, if the person spits on the cross, he is 
showing his loyalty to the Brotherhood instead and is loyal 
enough to be able to continue up the grade chart. He will be 
permitted into the "secret libraries", where the wisdom from 
long gone ages are gathered, and he's permitted to take part of 
it and its magical rituals. He will be more and more involved in 
Black Magic/Satanism and prepared for the "Big secrets", which 
are among others the following:

1. The secret society is in communication with

alien life-forms, which are the real powers behind the society.

2. The purpose with the society is to create a One World 
Government with them in charge over mankind, but above them in 
the Hierarchy is the Luciferian, alien force.

3. The way to control the masses is through mind control and 
occult, satanic power, used with the intent to manipulate.

4. The reward will be power and money.

5. We are all spiritual beings, inhabiting a body and are thus 
immortal as spirits.

 

In 1922 Lucifer's Trust was created in London, but later changed 
its name to Luci's Trust, as the first name was too obvious. The 
Trust is non-governmental and officially recognized by the 
United Nations. It's also an extention of the Theosophical 
Society. Luci's Trust is sponsored by among others the Satanist 
Robert McNamara , former minister of Defense in the USA, 
president of the World Bank, member of the Rockefeller 
Foundation, and Thomas Watson (IBM, former ambassador in 
Moscow). Luci's trust sponsors among others the following front 
organizations: UN, Greenpeace Int., Greenpeace USA, Amnesty 
Int., UNICEF. Luci's Trust has its only "religious" chapel, the 
Temple of Understanding, where Satanism is in practice, in the 
UN headquarter in New York, USA (source: Police Highschool 
Library, Satanism, A 205 Basic Course II police Highschool 
autumn 1991; authors: Ingela Goransson and Lena Martinsson, 
Sweden). Interesting is the fact that Luci's Trust openly 
declares that a secretive group of illuminated, New Age notables 
is now running the planet from behind the scene(!).

The reason good intended people stay members of such destructive 
organizations is probably because of its un-democratic structure 
and chain of commands. The lower-grade Brother is not entitled 
to know what's on the grade above and curiosity drives him into 
the mystery. Also, the discipline and secrecy is very strict and 
punishment can be hard, if one fails to comply. In this manner 
the very few evil men at the top can control the many innocent 
and ignorant people below. It's probably that simple and of 
course a basic form of mind control.

I'm not even sure democracy is the ultimate structure of a 
society, but the hierarchy of a dictatorship must be worse, 
however. True democracy, though, has always showed to fail, as 
it requires political involvement from the citizens, who are the 
real power. However, it was Plato (an Illuminati initiate) who 
came up with democracy in the first place - at least officially, 
though it was Socrates who initiated the idea. But groups of 
people have been shown to be easily manipulated and controlled 
through history, and made to believe they live in a democracy, 
when the real power has "invisibly" changed to the favor of the 
politicians, who actually should only be employed by the people 
for to substantiate their needs and desires. This seems to have 
been forgotten ...

 

The UN is nothing else but the Worldpolice of the Illuminati, 
founded to be able to step in and take military control over a 
country or region which is countering their plans. Don't think 
it is a coincidence that the Temple of Understanding is 
positioned in the UN headquarters ...

Socialism is nothing else but the politics the Black Order uses 
to enslave the people on Earth. The red banner is the symbol of 
their biggest sponsor and their economical protector's family-
banner who since the 1700's has worked for to bring about 
socialism. The banker Meyer Amschel Rothschild (1743-1812) was 
the first member of this family who worked for and financed it. 
Today the Rothschilds own the F-U Central bank, but not many 
people know that many of the European Banks were founded by the 
Rothschilds and owned by them. Central banks is a basic thesis 
for the upcoming of socialism.

For example, the Rothschilds have invested plenty of money into 
the Environmental Movement to counter the nuclear-power 
industry, which wanted to build up its own free energy through 
nuclear power. The national independence is very important to 
stop. And even more, when the oil resources come to an end, the 
nuclear power will replace it and therefore the Rothschilds have 
bought 80% of the world assets of Uranium. In this way they will 
have world control over energy, meaning it will never be free ...

So what is the esoteric knowledge taught on the higher grades of 
the Illuminati? Well, to the ignorant it might make no sense at 
all, or at least it will be hard to understand, but I'll try to 
give you some data anyway, at least for the purpose to inform 
you.
 


 


From: om/cf
To: Sister
Date: Tue Mar 12 18:16:12 2002

Message:
Thats a funny story LOOOOOOL! Lots of 'it is believed' 
and 'making us believe' in there. OOOOOOOO, spooooooky story 
hour. How nice. The 'all seeing eye'......Im getting scared now! 
Oh boy, 'secret goals', 'secret societies', all the makins' of a 
good horror story.

In the meantime, as time passed by, the "Brotherhood of the 
Snake" was infiltrated by the Draconian Master aliens 

WHEW!!! I guess Im safe for now, I havent got a clue as to what 
a Draconian Master alien could be, but it sure sounds evil. I 
bet the car salesmen see you coming. "Ya, it was owned by the 
most devout, little old Muslim lady from Pasadena. Honest. So we 
have a deal then. Great!"

From: Merlyn
To: Sister
Date: Tue Mar 12 18:35:27 2002

Message:
And your point is? I belong to an order that simply put, you 
cannot. As I would not belong to a Muslim Mosque. BFD. As for 
Free Masons. They are not witches nor do they practice occult. 
However thay do Drink beer! Lots of it! And so do I. Just 
sinful! 
  Get over it already. We don't care about the Freemasons. Have 
you gotten even one person to care? NO. so WTF?

From: om/cf
To: Sister who spams a lot
Subject: Would you be interested in buying the Brooklyn Bridge?
Date: Tue Mar 12 18:41:40 2002

Message:
I thought Muslims were not allowed to digest Spam? Your wolfin' 
it down like a big dog. LOL!!

From: om/cf
To: the Board
Subject: I think the INS needs a overhaul
Date: Tue Mar 12 18:52:14 2002

Message:
http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/03/12/inv.flight.school.visas/index.ht
ml#

Six months after Sept. 11, hijackers visas approval letters 
received
March 12, 2002 Posted: 5:08 PM EST (2208 GMT)

MIAMI, Florida (CNN) -- Six months to the day after Mohamed Atta 
and Marwan Al-Shehhi flew planes into the World Trade Center, 
the Immigration and Naturalization Service notified a Venice, 
Florida, flight school that the two men had been approved for 
student visas. 

Rudi Dekkers of Huffman Aviation, where Atta, 33, and Al-Shehhi, 
23, first trained in July 2000, showed the yellow INS forms to 
CNN during an interview Monday. Dekkers said he was surprised to 
get the forms at such a late date.  
-----------------------------------------------------------------

If the average American did his or her job the way our goverment 
does it, we would all be FUCKING FIRED! Lets get on some 
goverment asses over some of this bullshit. They fucking work 
for us goddamit! We pay their fucking paychecks! I for one, dont 
want to see 9/11 happen again because of INS not having their 
shit together. Im doin some pissed off e-mails tonight.

From: SISTER
To: OM/CF AND MERLYN
Date: Tue Mar 12 19:07:32 2002

Message:
THERE WHERE PEOPLE HERE WHO DIDNT KNOW WHAT MASONS WHERE SO I 
GAVE THEM SOME INFO TO HELP THEM UNDERSTAND ITS OK OC/MF YOU 
HAVE PROVED TO ME MANY TIMES THAT YOU WOULD RATHER FOLLOW EVIL 
THAN GOOD LOL SO AS FAR AS IM CONCERNED IF YOU ARE GONNA BE THAT 
IGNORENT THEN GO BURN.I HAVE BEEN READING MANY POSTS ON THE 
OTHER BOARDS THAT YOU HAVE WRITTEN OC/MF YOU ARE A VERY RUDE 
PERSON YOU HAVE NO RESPECT FOR NO ONE AS FAR AS I CAN SEE ALL I 
DO SEE IS THAT WHEN I SPEAK THE TRUTH YOU ALL TRY SHUT ME UP LOL 
BECAUSE WHAT I SPEAK IS TRUTH AS FOR YOU MERLYN IT WOULDNT 
SUPPRISE ME IF YOU WHERE A MASON JUST TRYING TO COVER YOUR SICK 
WAYS UP AND MAKE ME LOOK LIKE I HAVE LOST MY HEAD BUT IN ACTUAL 
FACT YOU KNOW WHAT I SPEAK IS TRUTH LOL AND NOW YOU ALL KNOW WHY 
I WILL NEVER SURRENDER TO YOUR EVIL WAYS I WOULD RATHER STARV 
THAN HAVE ANY HELP FROM YOU PEOPLE ALL YOUR COUNTRY IS, IS 
SECRETS AND EVIL NOTHING ELSE LOL YOU ALL WALK PAST SYSMBOLS 
THAT REPRESENT YOUR EVIL EVERYDAY HELL THEY ARE EVEN ON TV WHEN 
YOU ARE WATCHING ITS JUST THAT THEY HAVE MANIPULATED YOU ALL AND 
BRAINWASHED YOU ALL TO MUCH TO SEE THAT,THAT IS YOU ANYWAY OM/CF 
AS FOR MERLYN YOU WOULD NO EXACTLEY WHAT IS GOING ON BUT LLIKE I 
SAID MANY TIMES BEFORE YOU FOLLOW THE SHATAN THEN HELL YOU 
BELONG WITH THE SHATAN.

From: NC Husband/?
To: om/cf
Subject: I think the INS needs a overhaul
Date: Tue Mar 12 19:19:54 2002

Message:
You are so right... How can people that work at the INS not be 
able to recognize names that have been all over the news for the 
last six months. I can't believe that of all the people that 
must have handled the paperwork, ON ONE was able to remember the 
names. There is a very serious problem with the intelligence 
tests that they use when hiring the people. I agree they should 
start from scratch

From: Justice
To: SISTER
Date: Tue Mar 12 19:40:13 2002

Message:
Have you been reading these websites too?
www.nationalenquirer.com and www.weeklyworldnews.com.

From: Our Freedom
To: SISTER
Date: Tue Mar 12 19:51:02 2002

Message:
You are one wacked out bitch.  Seek help please.

From: om/cf
To: N.C.H./?
Subject: I.N.S.
Date: Tue Mar 12 20:58:16 2002

Message:
Its almost unbelievable something like that could occur in the 
wake of the terror attacks, and you are right, if I saw the name 
Atta on the vest of a store employee at Walmart, it would get my 
attention! One would also logically think, any mail from the 
I.N.S. going to any flight school would be looked at pretty 
closely, but then again we're talking about common sense in a 
huge goverment agency, so that may be asking for a little too 
much. LOL!

From: U.K.Citizen
To: Right said fred
Subject: Wrong said fred
Date: Tue Mar 12 20:07:09 2002

Message:
Is Bin Laden still alive? Excuse me, but WHY are you asking 
us?......you know full well he's alive..and well..and sluming it 
at YOUR house. Bet he hogs the bathroom in the mornings huh, 
gets first dibs at your wig, lipstick and mascara for his 
clandestine trips to the supermarket. As he embarks on his foray 
you cry, "..oh and make sure you get me some leg wax!"...to 
which he replies.. 

"ANYTHING...for the lady.."

Get the impression you've been missed?  

From: om/cf
To: Sister
Subject: In response
Date: Tue Mar 12 21:25:23 2002

Message:
ITS OK OC/MF YOU 
HAVE PROVED TO ME MANY TIMES THAT YOU WOULD RATHER FOLLOW EVIL 
THAN GOOD LOL SO AS FAR AS IM CONCERNED IF YOU ARE GONNA BE THAT 
IGNORENT THEN GO BURN.I HAVE BEEN READING MANY POSTS ON THE 
OTHER BOARDS THAT YOU HAVE WRITTEN OC/MF YOU ARE A VERY RUDE 
PERSON YOU HAVE NO RESPECT FOR NO ONE AS FAR AS I CAN SEE ALL I 
DO SEE IS THAT WHEN I SPEAK THE TRUTH YOU ALL TRY SHUT ME UP LOL 
BECAUSE WHAT I SPEAK IS TRUTH 

Sister, that is some high horse you ride on, must be 15 hands at 
least. Just because I think your full of shit does not make me 
evil or LOL ignorant. I'll admit to being rude on occasion but 
this is the cyberworld, I am much worse in real life. For you to 
call ME rude is a joke. Respect? Thats a quality thats worked at 
and earned. Since you brought up being rude, lets take a look at 
how many times you make a statement in your posts and end it with
BECAUSE WHAT I SPEAK IS TRUTH. That IS rude.
Anyway, Im not interested in a bunch a soap opera bullshit 
cluttering up the board so I'll leave it at that for now.
 

From: COMMANDO
To: SISTA RAT
Date: Tue Mar 12 22:13:22 2002

Message:
Hon,

  Have you considered talking with someone who could prescribe 
psychtropic meds?  Haliperidone would help you.
  You might also request a MMPI-2; this is a test which will 
measure, among other things, your paranoia and masculine traits.
  Or is mental illness a tool of 'Shatan" too?
  Most of us on the board are probably wondering how you can be 
so mean-hearted, yet claim to be in God's favor.  Seems to me 
that you're so far away from God that you've learned to love your 
anger more than Him.

  Something for you meditate about.

  Ta Ta for now.   

From: DON'T TREAD ON ME
To: omcf/Da Board
Subject: Da Grid/Our Afghan "allies"
Date: Tue Mar 12 23:23:38 2002

Message:
Did the grid.  I'm almost exactly in the middle! That's ok, I 
still think of myself as a liberal.I'm two spaces to the left of 
center and one space down from the middle (one space towards the 
LIbertarian). Pardon my ignorance, but who's Robin Cook ?  Seems 
I'm closest to him. He's a bit to the right and a tad less 
Libertarian.  But like me, according to the grid, almost plumb 
center. So. Did I hear right ? I'm late at work and FOX News was 
on and some "allied" Afghan commander is quoted as saying that 
the Americans are hurting the morale of his men because we don't 
know how to fight the Afghan way. Incredible. The Afghan way in 
Operation Anaconda: Tip off the enemy when you're comming, then 
when the mortars blow up your vehicles, run away and let the 
Americans, Brits and Aussies do the dirty work. The Afghan way 
at Tora Bora: Take American money, fire artillery at some caves, 
let enemy get away. Fuck  "the Afghan way".  Look, we really 
don't wanna stick around drinking green tea and we still have a 
buncha killin' to do.  So get with us or get the hell out of the 
way.

From: Rationalist
To: Anyone especially Franky
Subject: Palistine vs. Isreial
Date: Wed Mar 13 00:34:32 2002

Message:
What is the cause of the Palistine vs. Isralie(spelling?) 
conflict?  I know nothing about it at all.  Franky if you could, 
you seem to know a great deal about the region and what is going 
on there.  Can you tell me?  Anyone else who can post something 
to shed some light on the subject please do.  Thank you.

From: Zoton, King of The Mole People
To: SISTER
Date: Wed Mar 13 01:42:28 2002

Message:
Greetings.  My name is Zoton.  I come from a dimension void of 
color.  I have been chosen to the people of this board, and to 
chastize you for your lying and wicked ways.
  
  The early Egyptians were Martian descendents.  They were the 
origin of the Mediterranian peoples.  This is your lineage.

  Several of your centuries ago, the Martians agreed to join with 
the Pleadians in an attempt to conquer those of us who had 
colonized the back sector of Mars.  The idea was to enslaveus to 
build their buildings, teach their children, and operate their 
governments.  We were oppressed and abused if we refused to 
perform for them.

  I have been sent to your time and your dimension to warn the 
people of Earth of the evil being planned against them by SISTER 
and her organization.  Suffice to say that she is not really a 
human woman at all.  She is a nonhuman organic life form whose 
existence depends on turning people away from a religion which 
has been destroyed by hateful Earthmen such as Osama Bin Laden.

  I beseech each one of you:  do not allow her hate and 
wickedness to control 

From:
To: Daddy
Date: Wed Mar 13 01:59:32 2002

Message:
Daddy blows goats.    

From: SISTER
To: LOOOOOOOOOL
Date: Wed Mar 13 02:45:04 2002

Message:
WHATS WRONG BOYS CANT HANDLE WHATS REALLY GOING ON IN YOUR 
COUNTRY TO BE EXPOSED I HAVE ALOT MORE INFO LOL BUT I GUESS YOU 
WILL MAKE UP SOME BULLSHIT TO COVER THAT UP TO WONT YOU LOOOOOOL 
YOU BUNCH OF LOST SHEEP WHY DONT YOU GO AND SEARCH AND LEARN THE 
TRUTH FOR YOUR SELVES WAKE UP BEFORE ITS TO LATE ONCE YOUR DEAD 
YOU DONT GET SECOND CHANCE.

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From: COMMANDO
To: SISTER
Date: Wed Mar 13 03:15:53 2002

Message:
SPEAKING OF BULLSHIT, WHAT WAS THAT ABOUT YOUR THREATENING TO 
KILL ME ON A BATTLEFIELD?  WERE YOU HIGH ON HEROIN MADE FROM THE 
POPPY FIELDS OF AFGHANISTAN?
  ASIDE FROM YOUR NARCISSISM AND YOUR ATTENTION-SEEKING 
BEHAVIOUR, I'D HAVE TO SAY THAT SOMEONE AS STUPID AS YOU WOULDN'T 
LAST FIVE (5) MINUTES ON A BATTLEFIELD.  YOU KUFFAR WALKING WASTE 
OF SPERM.  LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!

From: SISTER
To: COMMANDO
Date: Wed Mar 13 03:26:05 2002

Message:
DONT EVER UNDERESTIMATE COMMANDO TO EVEN TRY KILL YOU WOULD NOT 
BE HARAM AS FOR ME SEEKING ATTENTION YOUR THE ONE WHO STARTED 
THIS WITH ME SO I WILL MAKE SUR I (WILL)FINISH IT I TOLD YOU 
MANY TIMES BIG TOUGH COMMANDO IM NOT SCARED OF YOU AND SORRY I 
AINT NO KUFFAR,KUFFAR 

From: COMMANDO
To: SISTA
Date: Wed Mar 13 03:35:33 2002

Message:
I STARTED WHAT?  YOU CAME ONTO THESE BOARDS, SPEWING YOUR 
VERBAL VOMIT, TELLING EVERY NON-MUSLIM PERSON THAT THEY ARE ALL 
WORTHLESS, AND THAT YOU SUPPORT BIN LADEN.
  FUNNY HOW YOU RUN OFF AT THE MOUTH, BUT THEN BITCH WHEN SOMEONE 
HOLDS YOU ACCOUNTABLE FOR YOUR BEHAVIOUR.  I THOUIGHT YOU WERE A 
BIT MORE TOUGH-MINDED THAN THAT!
  AS TO YOUR OVERALL CHARACTER, I'D HAVE TO SAY THAT YOU COME 
ACROSS AS SOMEONE WHO SERVES HERSELF MORE THAN SHEDOES GOD.  
YOU'RE CLEARLY SELFISH:  SELFISH ABOUT VALUING YOUR HATRED OF 
EVERYONE IN AMERICA/ENGLAND MORE THAN YOU DOGOD.  COME ON, 
SISTER:  YOU DON'T SPEAK FOR ISLAM ANY MORE THAN AN ANT SPEAKS 
FOR A BEAR.  SISTA, IT'S ABOUT TIME YOU OPENED YOUR Q'URAN AND 
LOOKED FOR SPIRITUAL TRUTH AND MEANING, INSTEAD OF HATRED AND 
DESTRUCTION.  DO NOT EXPECT ME TO TAKE YOUR CRAP.  YOU MIGHT PUSH 
SOMEBODY ELSE ABOUT, BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT I WILL NEVER BE 
ONE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS.  LOOOOOOOOOO

From: COMMANDO
To: SISTA
Date: Wed Mar 13 03:43:10 2002

Message:
OH, YEAH, I ALMOST FORGOT:  YOU WERE WRONG WHEN YOU SAID YOU 
WERE GOING TO FINISH THIS.  JUST AS THE AL QAIDA WERE WRONG WHEN 
THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO FINISH THEIR FIGHT WITH THE 
AMERICANS.   LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!    

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From: SISTER
To: COMMANDO
Date: Wed Mar 13 03:54:41 2002

Message:
YOU BLABEL ALL SHIT NOTHING ELSE WHO AND WHEN DID I SAY I 
SUPPOET BIN LADEN MORON YOU KNOW TO BE QUIET HONEST OUT OF THE 
LOT OF YOU THE PERSON WITH THE MOST RESPECT WAS (FACTS FINDER)
HONESTLY MAYBE YOU SHOULD TAKE A BIT OF LESSONS FROM HIM DONT 
YOU THINK COMMANDO?AS FOR WHAT LOL YOU THINK YOU WILL FINISH 
THIS COMMANDO I WILL TELL YOU SOMETHING RIGHT NOW FOOL IF IT 
WASNT FOR YOUR DEVIL WORSHIPPING LEADER GETTING HELP LIKE THE 
COWARD HE IS FROM ALL DIFFERENT COUNTRIES YOUR YANKY ASSES WOULD 
HAVE BEEN KICKED ALONG TIME AGO LOL BUT DONT WORRY WHAT I REALLY 
WANT TO SEE IS THE LOOK ON YOUR FACES WHEN ALL MUSLIMS DO UNITE 
COMMANDO I DONT THINK YOU REALLY KNOW HOW MANY MUSLIMS IN THIS 
WORLD THERE REALLY IS (ALHUMDULILLAH)DO YOU.WELL INSHA ALLAH 
SOON YOU ALL WILL UNTIL THEN I WILL KEEP EXPOSING YOUR SOCIETIES 
EVIL WAYS AND I REALLY COULD CARE LESS WHO LIKES IT OR NOT AS 
FOR TURNING PEOPLE AWAY FROM ISLAM JUST THE OTHER NIGHT AS A 
MATTER A FACT AFTER SPEAKING TO A WOMAN FROM ENGLAND SHE HAS NOW 
EMBRACED ISLAM (ALHUMDULILLAH)SO YOU SEE COMMANDO I ONLY TALK 
THIS WAY TO IGNORENT FOOLS LIKE YOU WHO COME ON TO BOARDS LIKE 
THESE AND TRY FIND EVERYTHING BAD TO SAY ABOUT MUSLIMS BUT WHEN 
PEOPLE SHOW ME AND MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS RESPECT AND TREAT US 
THE WAY THEY WOULD EXPECT TO BE TREATED THEN ITS A DIFFERENT 
STORY.AND AS FOR YOU WONT BE PUSHED AROUND BY ME OR TAKE MY CRAP 
THAT IS LIKEWISE HERE AS WELL IF YOU ARE READY TO TRASH ME 
COMMANDO THEN BE READY TO COP IT BACK OR WHATS WRONG A MUSLIMAH 
HAS NEVER SPOKEN TO YOU THIS WAY BEFORE YOU DONT FEEL MANLY 
ENOUGH ANYMORE LOL COME ON COMMANDO I THOUGHT YOU SHOULD BE USE 
TO WOMEN WEARING THE PANTS IN THE RELATIONSHIPS IN YOUR COUNTRY 
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

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From: Franky
To: Rationalist
Subject: Palestine and Israel
Date: Wed Mar 13 05:56:06 2002

Message:
When trying to understand the current conflict in Palestine it 
is important to recognize that it is not about religion.  
Jewish, Christian and Muslim Palestinians have been living 
together in complete harmony for well over 1,000 years.   Even 
when the Crusaders invaded Palestine 1,000 years ago, it was not 
about religion, since the Crusaders butchered the native 
Christian population along with the Palestinian Jews and 
Muslims, and the Christian Arabs fought alongside the Muslims 
and Jews to evict them.  

Only by treating the conflict as a battle between a colonialist 
state,  Israel , and an occupied, civilian population, the 
Palestinians, can current events make any sense.   Israel  was 
only created 52 years ago after a proclamation from England.  
The vast majority of the Jewish population immigrated to 
Palestine within the last 100 years.   Israel , is an apartheid, 
exclusionary state.  It has separate laws for native Arabs under 
occupation and for the Jewish colonizers who are living amongst 
them.   Jews are given preferential treatment in allocation of 
government resources as well, to the extent that Jewish colonies 
in Palestine are adorned with lush lawns and swimming pools 
while nearby Palestinian villages typically have their water cut 
off entirely for 3 or 4 days a week.  

Meanwhile, the Israeli government has done its utmost to expel 
as many Palestinians as possible from their native land.  
Palestinians who can trace continuous ancestral residence in 
Palestine for thousands of years, risk being disallowed from 
returning to their homes if they leave the country for any 
period of time, e.g. for college or visiting relatives.  
Meanwhile, Jews from the U.S. are granted automatic Israeli 
citizenship merely by being Jewish, even if they have never even 
seen a picture of Palestine in their whole life.  

The U.S. mainstream media has played a terribly biased role in 
this affair, portraying Israeli propaganda as if it were fact.  
When the assassination of a 12 year old Palestinian by Israeli 
snipers was captured by television, U.S. media claimed the boy 
was killed by  cross fire , even though all the eyewitnesses, 
including the photographer, insisted the shooting came entirely 
from the Israeli side.  In the meantime, Israelis have killed 
over 200 Palestinian civilians.  Rather than admonish the 
Israelis for gunning down unarmed civilians, mainstream media 
has opted for blaming the victim, even going as far as saying 
Palestinian mothers don t care about their children.  Of course 
Palestinian mothers care about their children as much as anyone 
else, and it is nothing short of racist to imply otherwise.  
But, how can one stop the human need to be free?  

The struggle of the Palestinians is a heroic one.  In spite of 
what the media says, their throwing of stones is entirely a 
symbolic gesture.  Yet, they are met with high velocity rounds 
of live bullets, missiles from tanks and machine-guns and 
missile fire from helicopter war ships.  This is not a means of 
crowd control, but nothing short of a massacre.  Yet, the U.S. 
media refuses to call it so.  

The current conflict is a result of the realization by the 
Palestinians that the recent  peace process  was nothing more 
than a means to put them all in  self-administered  
reservations.  These were nothing more than the apartheid 
Bantustans of South Africa that the entire world rejected a few 
years ago.   According to the peace process, the Palestinians 
were given a handful of cities to administer.  But, the Israelis 
controlled all the land surrounding the cities.  So, no one 
could leave or enter the cities without Israeli permission.  In 
addition, the Israelis sealed off the Palestinian cities on 
several occasions, thereby crippling the Palestinian economy.  

The Palestinians have had enough.  People on the street are now 
saying they can t take the humiliation any more, and they are 
willing to die fighting for their liberation.   Meanwhile, in 
the U.S. and the rest of the world, a call is being made for 
financial divestment from  Israel  to pressure them to respect 
the human rights of the Palestinians.  


From: Franky
To: I have 60 questions to ask the Christians
Subject: I spoke nicely and not offended you please please reply back to me
Date: Wed Mar 13 06:02:33 2002

Message:
"As for those who Divide their Religion and break up into Sects, 
thou hast no part in them in the least: their affair is with 
Allaah. He will in the end tell them the truth of all that they 
did."(Holy Qur'aan 6: 159) 
 
60 Questions For The Christians
TRINITY
According to most Christians, Jesus was God-incarnate, full man 
and full God. Can the finite and the infinite be one? "To be 
full" God means freedom from finite forms and from helplessness, 
and to be "full man" means the absence of divinity.

1.To be son is to be less than divine and to be divine is to be 
no one s son. How could Jesus have the attributes of sonship and 
divinity altogether?

2.Christians assert that Jesus claimed to be God when they quote 
him in John 14:9: "He that has seen me has seen the Father". 
Didn t Jesus clearly say that people have never seen God, as it 
says in John 5:37: "And the father himself which Has sent me, 
has borne witness of me. You have NEITHER HEARD HIS VOICE AT ANY 
TIME NOR SEEN HIS SHAPE"?

3.Christians say that Jesus was God because he was called Son of 
God, Son of Man, Messiah, and "savior". Ezekiel was addressed in 
the Bible as Son of Man. Jesus spoke of "the peace makers" as 
Sons of God. Any person who followed the Will and Plan of God 
was called SON OF GOD in the Jewish tradition and in their 
language (Genesis 6:2,4; Exodus 4:22; Psalm 2:7; Romans 
8:14). "Messiah" which in Hebrew means "God s anointed" and 
not "Christ", and "Cyrus" the person is called "Messiah" or "the 
anointed". As for "savior", in II KINGS 13:5, other individuals 
were given that title too without being gods. So where is the 
proof in these terms that Jesus was God when the word son is not 
exclusively used for him alone?

4.Christians claim that Jesus acknowledged that he and God were 
one in the sense of nature when he says in John 10:30 "I and my 
father are one". Later on in John 17:21-23, Jesus refers to his 
followers and himself and God as one in five places. So why did 
they give the previous "one" a different meaning from the other 
five "ones?

5.Is God three-in-one and one in three simultaneously or one at 
a time?

6.If God is one and three simultaneously, then none of the three 
could be the complete God. Granting that such was the case, then 
when Jesus was on earth, he wasn t a complete God, nor was 
the "father in Heaven" a whole God. Doesn t that contradict what 
Jesus always said about His God and our God in heaven, his Lord 
and our Lord ? Does that also mean that there was no complete 
god then, between the claimed crucifixion and the claimed 
resurrection?

7.If God is one and three at a time, then who was the God in 
heaven when Jesus was on earth? Wouldn t this contradict his 
many references to a God in Heaven that sent him?

8.If God is three and one at the same time, who was the God in 
Heaven within three days between the claimed crucifixion and the 
claimed resurrect ion?

9.Christians say that: "The Father(F) is God, the Son(S) is God, 
and the Holy Ghost(H) is God, but the Father is not the Son, the 
Son is not the Holy Ghost, and the Holy Ghost is not the 
Father". In simple arithmetic and terms therefore, if F = G, S = 
G, and H = G, then it follows that F = S = H, while the second 
part of the statement suggests that F   S   H (meaning, "not 
equal"). Isn t that a contradiction to the Christian dogma of 
Trinity in itself ?

10.If Jesus was God, why did he tell the man who called 
him "good master" not to call him "good" because accordingly, 
there is none good but his God in Heaven alone?

11.Why do Christians say that God is three-in-one and one in 
three when Jesus says in Mark 12:29: "The Lord our God is one 
Lord" in as many places as yet in the Bible?

12.If belief in the Trinity was such a necessary condition for 
being a Christian, why didn t Jesus teach and emphasize it to 
the Christians during his time? How were those followers of 
Jesus considered Christians without ever hearing the term 
Trinity? Had the Trinity been the spinal cord of Christianity, 
Jesus would have emphasized it on many occasions and would have 
taught and explained it in detail to the people.

13.Christians claim that Jesus was God as they quote in John 
1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, 
and the Word was God". This is John speaking and not Jesus. 
Also, the Greek word for the first occurrence of God is HOTHEOS 
which means "the God" or "God" with a capital "G", while the 
Greek word for its second occurrence is "TONTHEOS", which 
means "a god " or "god" with a small "g". Isn t this dishonesty 
and inconsistency on the part of those translating the Greek 
Bible? ? Isn t such quotation in John 1:1 recognized by every 
Christian scholar of the Bible to have been written by a Jew 
named Philo Alexandria way before Jesus and John?

14.Wasn t the word "god" or "TONTHEOS" also used to refer to 
others as well as in II Corinthians 4:4 "(and the Devil is) the 
god of this world" and in Exodus 7:1 "See , I have made thee 
(Moses ) a god to Pharaoh"?


SALVATION:
Christians say that "GOD LOST His only son to save us". To whom 
did God lose Jesus if he owns the whole universe?

15. If it was agreeable with God s Majesty to have sons, He 
could have created a million sons the like of Jesus. So what is 
the big clear deal about this only son?

16.Why does the Bible say that Jesus wanted to die on the cross, 
when the one on the cross was shouting "My God, my God, why have 
you forsaken me?" according to Matthew 27:45 and Mark 15:33?

17. If God had wanted to save us, couldn t He have done that 
without sacrificing Jesus?

18. God is Just, and justice requires that nobody should be 
punished for the sins of others, nor should some people be saved 
by punishing other people. Doesn t the claim that God sacrificed 
Jesus to save us because He was Just, contradict the definition 
of justice?

19. People sacrifice things they have to get something they 
don t have when they can t have both. Christians say that "God 
SACRIFICED His only son to save us". We know that God is 
Almighty; to whom did He sacrifice Jesus?

20. A real sacrifice is when you can t get back what you have 
offered , so what would be the big deal about such a sacrifice 
if God could recover the same offering? (according to the 
Christians  terminology)?

21. If all the Christians are saved through Jesus and are going 
to Heaven no matter what they do, then the teachings of Jesus 
are irrelevant and the definition of good and bad are also 
rendered irrelevant. If this is not so, then do Christians who 
believe in Jesus yet do not follow his teachings nor repent go 
to Hell?

22. How can Christians take deeds as irrelevant after becoming 
one when Jesus says in Matthew 12:36; "But I say unto you that 
every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account 
thereof in the Day of Judgment. For by the words thou shalt be 
justified, and by the words thou shalt be condemned"?

23. Christians say that people go to Heaven ONLY THROUGH JESUS, 
yet Paul says in 1 CORINTHIANS 7:8-16 that the unbelieving 
husband is acceptable to God because he is united with his wife 
and vice versa, and their pagan children are also acceptable to 
God. So people can go to heaven without believing in Jesus 
according to this.

24. How come the Bible says that ALL Israel is saved although 
they don t believe in Jesus? Doesn t that contradict the claim 
in the Bible that the only way to heaven is through Jesus?

25. According to Christians, those who have not been baptized 
will go to Hell. So even the infants and babies go to Hell if 
not baptized, since they are born with an inherited original 
sin. Doesn t this contradict the definition of justice? Why 
would God punish people for sins they never committed?


HOLY SPIRIT:
The only place in the Bible where the Paraclete was called the 
Holy Spirit is in John 14:26 "But the Paraclete, the Holy 
Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you 
all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to 
you". What has the Holy Spirit brought or taught for the last 
2000 years?

26.Christians say that the Paraclete means the Holy Spirit (John 
14;26). Jesus said in John 16:7-8 "If I do not go away the 
Paraclete will not come to you". This could not mean the Holy 
spirit, since the Holy spirit was said to have been there before 
Jesus was even born as in Luke 1:41 "Elizabeth was filled with 
the Holy Spirit". Here, the Holy spirit was also present during 
Jesus life time. So how could this fit with the condition that 
Jesus must go away so that the Holy spirit will come?  

27.In John 16:7-8, it says: "But if go, I will send him to you. 
And when he comes, he will convict the world of sins and of 
righteousness and of Judgment". What do "he" and "him" refer 
here? Don t they refer to a man?

28.Does the Holy Spirit talk to good Christians and bad 
Christians as well? Is the Holy spirit with them all the time or 
just at certain times? When does it start visiting a person who 
wants to become a Christian?

29.How can you as a Christian tell if the Holy Spirit is inside 
another Christian? How come many Christians fooled people by 
claiming that the Holy spirit was inside them only to be 
converted to another religion later on ?

30.Does the Holy Spirit dictate what Christians should do 
without choice or freedom at all or does it only guide them and 
they have the freedom to follow or not ?

31.If the Holy Spirit dictates what Christian should do, why do 
Christians commit sins and make mistakes ? How can you explain 
the conversion to other religions and atheism of many 
Christians? Are they told to do that by the Holy Spirit?

32.If the Holy Spirit guides Christians only, and they are free 
to do what they want, then how do we know that the writers of 
the Gospels didn t make mistakes in writing them?

33.If Christians believe that the Holy Spirit comes and talks to 
them everyday, why don t they ask the Holy Spirit about which 
version of the Bible to follow since there are too many versions 
floating around?


MISSION OF JESUS:
 Without borrowing from other religions and systems, can 
Christianity provide people with a complete way of life? Since 
Christianity is limited to spiritual life and does not provide 
law, how can a society decide which laws are right or wrong?

34.Why do the Christians say that Jesus came with a universal 
mission when he said that he was sent to the Jews only? He said 
to the Canaanite woman who asked him to heal her daughter from 
demon-possession: "I was sent ONLY to the lost sheep of Israel" 
and also said: "It is not right to take the children s bread and 
toss it to their dogs", Matthew 15:21-28.


RESSURECTION:
If you read Matthew (28:1-10), Mark (16:1-20), Luke (24:1-12), 
and John (20: 1-18), you will find contradicting stories. They 
all agreed that the tomb was guarded for three days. However, 
they reported the discovery of the empty tomb differently.

Matthew (28) and John (20) reported that Mary Magdalene and the 
other Mary were the first to discover the tomb. 

Mark (16) reports that Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, 
and Salome were the first to discover the empty tomb. 

Mark (28) reports that there was an earthquake that removed the 
rock from over the tomb. He says that an angel caused it. The 
other gospels do not mention of an earthquake. 

Matthew and Mark say that only ONE man in white clothes was 
sitting on the tomb when the woman arrived, and that he was an 
angel. 

Luke says that TWO men in white clothes, who were angels, were 
sitting. Johns says that the two women did not meet anybody the 
first time they came to the tomb, but when they returned, they 
saw TWO people, ONE was an ANGEL, and the other was JESUS. 

Matthew reports that when the guards reported this to the chief 
priest, the chief priest paid them a large sum of money, telling 
them: "You have to say that his disciples came at night and 
stole his body." He claims that the soldiers took money and 
spread the story around and since then, the story had been 
circulating among the Jews until today (according to Matthew). 
The other gospels do not report of any such thing. 

35. Which narration now is more authentic?

36.Why is the appearance of Jesus after the crucifixion taken as 
a proof of his resurrection when there is an explanation that he 
was not dead because someone else was crucified in his place 
when God saved Him?

37.How did Matthew know of the claimed agreement between the 
soldiers and the chief priest? Can t someone say that someone 
paid the women a large sum of money and told them to spread the 
word around that Jesus rose from the dead, with the same 
authenticity as that of the story of Matthew?

38.Why did they believe that man in the white clothes? Why did 
they believe he was an angel? John s narration is too strange, 
since he says that Mary did not recognize Jesus (one of the two) 
while talking to him, and she only recognized him when he called 
her by her name.

39.How does an empty tomb prove that Jesus was crucified ? Isn t 
it that God is capable of removing another man from the tomb, 
and of resurrecting him too?

40.The Gospels are believed to be the verbatim words of God, 
they are supposed to be dictated by the Holy Spirit to the 
Disciples who wrote them. If the source were the same, why 
shouldn t they correspond with each other in reporting such an 
important event?

41.How could Matthew, Mark, Luke and John be considered 
eyewitnesses of resurrection when the Bible implies that nobody 
at all saw Jesus coming out of the tomb?


BIBLE:
If the Christians consider the Old Testament as God s Word, why 
did they cancel the parts of the Old Testament that dealt with 
punishment (example: the punishment for adultery)?

42.Why doesn t Mark 16:9-20 exist in as many versions of the 
Bible while it exists as a footnote or between brackets in some 
other versions? Is a footnote in the Bible still considered as 
God s word, especially when it addresses an important feature 
like the Ascension?

43.Why does the Catholic Bible contain 73 books while the 
Protestant Bible has only 66? With both claiming to have the 
complete Word of God, which one should be believed and why?

44.Where do those new translations of the Bible keep coming from 
when the original Bible is not even available ? The Greek 
manuscripts which are translations themselves are not even 
similar with each other.

45.How can you take two gospels from writers who never met 
Jesus, like Mark and Luke?

46.Why is half of the New Testament written by a man who never 
even met Jesus in his lifetime? PAUL claimed with no proof that 
he had met Jesus while on his way from Jerusalem to Damascus. 
PAUL was the main enemy of Christianity. Isn t that reason 
enough to question the authenticity of what he wrote? Why do the 
Christians call those books of the Old Testament "God s Word" 
when the revisors of the RSV Bible say that some of the authors 
are UNKNOWN? They say that the author of SAMUEL is "UNKNOWN" and 
that of CHRONICLES is "UNKOWN, PROBABLY COLLECTED AND EDITED BY 
EZRA"!


CONTRADICTIONS:
47.Concerning the controversial issues in the Bible, how can 
Christians decide by two-thirds majority what is God s Word and 
what is not, as the prefaces of some Bibles say like that one of 
the RSV ?

48.Why does Luke in his gospel report the Ascension on Easter 
Day, and in the Acts, in which he is recognized as the author, 
FORTY days later?

49.The genealogy of Jesus is mentioned in Matthew and Luke only. 
Matthew listed 26 forefathers from Joseph to David while Luke 
enumerated 41 forefathers. Only Joseph matches with Joseph in 
those two lists. Not a single other name matches! If these were 
inspired by God word by word, how could they be different? Some 
claim that one is for Mary and one is for Joseph, but where does 
it says Mary in those two Gospels?

50.If Moses wrote the first books of the Old Testament, how 
could Moses write his own obituary? Moses died in the fifth book 
at age 120 as mentioned in Deut. 34:5-10.

51.In the King James Version, why does it report SEVEN years of 
famine in II SAMUEL 24:13 while it reports THREE years of famine 
in I CHRONICLES 21:12? Why did they change both to THREE years 
in the New International Version and other versions?

52.Still In the same King James Version, why does it say that 
Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign in II 
CHRONICLES 21:12, while it says EIGHTEEN years in II KINGS 24:8? 
Why did thessey change in both to EIGHTEEN in the new Versions?

53.In all versions, why does it say that David slew the men of 
SEVEN HUNDRED chariots of the Syrians, and forty thousand 
HORSEMEN as evidenced in II Samuel 10:18 while its says SEVEN 
THOUSAND men which fought in chariots, and forty thousand 
FOOTMEN, in I CHRONICLES 19:18?

54.In all versions, why does it report TWO thousand baths in I 
KINGS 7:26 while II CHRONICLES 4:5 reports THREE THOUSAND?

55.In the King James version, why does it report that Solomon 
had FOUR THOUSAND stalls for horses in II CHRONICLES 9:25 while 
it accounts that Solomon had FORTY THOUSAND stalls of horses in 
1 KINGS 4:26? Why did they change both to FOUR THOUSAND in the 
new versions?

56.In GENESIS 1, God s creation progresses from grass to trees 
to fowls, whales, cattle and creeping things and finally to man 
and woman. GENESIS 2, however, puts the creation of man before 
cattle and fowl and woman subsequent to beast. How can this be 
explained?

QUR AN AND CHRISTIANS
This section does not inquire or interrogate, but rather 
provides the reader with some of the Qur anic verses that 
address the Christians in particular, and the people of the 
scripture in general. A great portion of the Qur an pertains to 
or involves the Christians and the Jews and I decided to just 
choose verses that are related to the topic of this manuscript.
 

"Lo! The likeness of Jesus with Allah is as the likeness of 
Adam. He created him of dust, then said unto him: Be, and he 
was." Al-Qur an 3:59. 

"Say: O People of the Scripture! Come to an agreement between us 
and you: that we shall worship none but Allah, and that we shall 
ascribe no partner unto Him, and that none of us shall take 
others for Lords besides Allah. And if they turn away, then say: 
Bear witness that we are they who have surrendered (unto him). 

"O People of the Scripture! Why will you argue about Abraham, 
when the Torah and the Gospel were revealed till after him? Have 
you then no sense?

Abraham was not a Jew, nor yet a Christian; but he was an 
upright man who had surrendered (to Allah), and he was not of 
the idolaters.

Lo! Those of mankind who have the best claim to Abraham are 
those who followed him, and his Prophet and those who believe 
(with him); and Allah is the Protector of the believers.

A party of the People of the Scripture longs to make you go 
astray; and they make none to go astray except themselves, but 
they perceive not.

O People of the Scripture! Why disbelieve you in the revelations 
of Allah, when you (yourselves) bear witness to their truth?

O People of the Scriptures! Why confound you truth with 
falsehood and knowingly conceal the Truth? (Al-Qur an 3: 64-71)

And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be 
accepted of him and in the hereafter, He will be one of the 
losers (Al-Qur an 3:85). 

  And because of their saying: We slew the Messiah Jesus, son of 
Mary, and Allah s messenger. They slew him not nor crucified 
him, but it appeared so unto them, and Lo! Those who disagree 
concerning it are in doubt thereof; they have no knowledge 
thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; they slew him not for 
certain: 

But Allah took him up unto Himself. Allah was ever Mighty, Wise. 
(Al-Qur an 4:157-158).

O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion 
nor utter ought concerning Allah save the truth. The Messiah 
Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah, and His word 
which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him, so believe 
in Allah and His messengers, and say not "Three"! Cease! (it 
is ) better for you! Allah is only One God. Far is it removed 
from His transcendent majesty that He should have a son. His is 
all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And 
Allah is sufficient as defender. 

The Messiah will never scorn to be a slave unto Allah, nor will 
the favored angels. Whosoever scorns His service and is proud, 
all such will assemble unto Him.

Then, as for those who believed and did good works, unto them 
will He give them their wages in full, adding unto them of His 
bounty; and as for those who were scornful and proud, then He 
will punish with a painful doom." (Al-Qur an 4:171-173).

"And with those who say Lo! We are Christians, We made a 
covenant, but they forgot a part of that whereof they were 
admonished. Therefore We have stirred up enmity and hatred among 
them till the Day of Resurrection, when Allah will inform them 
of their handiwork. 

O People of the Scripture! Now has our messenger come unto you, 
expounding unto you much of that which you used to hide in the 
Scripture, and forgiving much. Now has come unto light from 
Allah and plain scripture:

Whereby Allah guides him who seeks His good pleasure unto paths 
of peace, He brings them out of darkness unto light by His 
decree, and guides them unto a Straight Path.

They indeed have disbelieved who say: Lo! Allah is the messiah, 
son of Mary. Say: Who then can do aught against Allah if he had 
willed to destroy the Messiah son of Mary, and his mother and 
everyone on earth? Allah s is the sovereignty of the heavens and 
the earth and all that is between them. He creates what he 
wills. And Allah is able to do all things. (Al-Qur an 5:14:17).

"They surely disbelieve who say; Lo! Allah is the Messiah, son 
of Mary. The Messiah (himself) said: O children if Israel, 
worship Allah, my Lord and you Lord. Lo! Whosoever ascribes 
partners unto Allah, for him Allah has forbidden Paradise. His 
abode is the Fire. For evildoers ,there will be no helpers. 

They surely disbelieve who say: Lo! Allah is the third of the 
three; when there is no God save the One God. If they desist not 
from so saying, a painful doom will fall on those of them who 
disbelieve.

Will they not rather turn unto Allah and seek forgiveness of 
Him? For Allah is oft-forgiving, most merciful.

Say: Serve you in place of Allah that which possesses for you 
neither hurt nor use? Allah is the Hearer, the Knower.

Say: O People of the Scripture! Stress not in your religion 
other than the Truth, and follow not the vain desire of folks 
who erred of old and led many astray, and erred from a plain 
road." (Al-Qur an 5:72-77)

"And when Allah says: O Jesus, son of Mary: Did you say unto 
mankind: take me and my mother for two gods beside Allah?, he 
says: Be glorified! It was not mine to utter that to which I had 
no right. If I used to say it, then You Knew it, You know what 
is in my mind, and I know not what is in Your mind. Lo! You, 
only You, are the knower of things hidden. 

I spoke unto them only that which You commanded me (saying); 
worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord. I witness of them while I 
dwelt among them, and when You took me, You were the Watcher 
over them. You are witness over all things.

If You punish them, Lo! They are Your slaves, and if you forgive 
them (Lo! They are Your slaves). Lo! You, only you are the 
Mighty, the Wise.

Allah says: This is a day in which their truthfulness profits 
the truthful, for theirs are Gardens underneath which rivers 
flow, wherein they are secure forever, Allah taking pleasure in 
them and they in Him. That is the great triumph. (Al-Qur an 
5:116-119)

"And the Jews say:  Uzair (Ezra) is the son of Allah , and the 
Christians say:  The Messiah is the son of Allah . That is their 
saying with their mouths. They imitate the saying of those who 
disbelieved of old. Allah fights against them. How perverse they 
are! 

They have taken as Lord besides Allah their rabbis and their 
monks and the Messiah son of Mary, when they were bidden to 
worship only One God. There is no God save Him. Be He glorified 
from all that they ascribe as partners (unto him)!

Faint would they put out the light of Allah with their mouths, 
but Allah disdains (aught) save that He shall perfect His light, 
however much the disbelievers are averse.

He it is Who has sent His messenger with guidance and the 
Religion of Truth, to cause it to prevail over all religions, 
however much the idolaters may be averse.

O you who believe! Lo! many of the (Jewish) rabbis and the 
(Christian) monks devour the wealth of mankind wantonly and 
debar (people) from the way of Allah. They who hoard up gold and 
silver and spend it not in the way of Allah, unto them give 
tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful doom.

On the Day when it will (all) be heated in the fire of Hell, and 
their foreheads and their flanks and their backs will be branded 
therewith (and it will be said unto them): Here is that which 
you hoarded for yourselves. Now taste of what you used to 
hoard." (Al-Qur an 9:30-35).

 

MUHAMMAD OR JESUS?
Christians claim that the prophecy in Deut. 18:18 refers to 
Jesus and not Muhammad. The verse says: "I will raise them up a 
prophet from among THEIR BRETHREN, LIKE UNTO THEE, and I will 
put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that 
I shall command him." The only reason they resort to such 
interpretation is that both Moses and Jesus were prophets. Even 
this one contradicts their claim that Jesus was God and not a 
Prophet. Many prophets of the Jews had the similarity with 
Moses. However, if we compare Muhammad to Moses, we will find 
that:

Muhammad was an Arab, and the Arabs are from Ishmael, son of 
Abraham, while Moses was a Jew, and the Jews are from Isaac, son 
of Abraham. Hence, the term THEIR BRETHREN refers to the 
children of the first son being brethren of the children of the 
other. This couldn t apply to Jesus, since he was a Jew.

According to the Christians, Jesus went to Hell for three days 
while Moses did not. Therefore, Jesus is not like Moses. (In 
Islam, none of the three Prophets went to Hell)

Moses and Muhammad were born to fathers and mothers while Jesus 
was born to a mother alone.

Moses and Muhammad got married and had children, while Jesus did 
not marry at all.

Moses and Muhammad got problems and difficulties from their 
people initially, but were accepted by them at the end., whereas 
Jesus was rejected by his people at the start and is still 
rejected by the Jews until today. "He (Jesus) came unto his own, 
but his own received him not".( John 1:11)

Moses and Muhammad had power, besides being prophets. They both 
performed some capital punishments, for example, while Jesus had 
no power over his people. "My kingdom is not of this world", 
Jesus said in John 18:36 .

Moses and Muhammad brought new laws while Jesus did not.

Moses was forced to emigrate in adulthood to Median while 
Muhammad was forced to emigrate at that stage in his life too, 
towards Madina . Whereas Jesus did not have such forced 
emigration in his adulthood .

Moses and Muhammad both died of natural deaths after which they 
were buried ,while the same could not be said of Jesus. He was 
neither killed nor crucified at all, according to the Qur an and 
did not die a  natural  death as could be affirmed by Christians 
who believe in Crucifixion.

FINAL QUESTIONS:
57.Why won t you, Christian reader, come to hear and learn of 
the true religion of Jesus?

58.Have you, as a Christian , learned of Islam and if so, was it 
from the true Muslims?

59.As a Christian, do you agree that out of fairness and honesty 
you must investigate what Islam says about God, Jesus, including 
this life and the hereafter?

60.Being a Christian, do you also believe that we must all stand 
accountable to our Creator and that the Creator is Perfect and 
Just? As a sincere believer in God, don t you owe it upon 
yourself to find out the entire unadulterated truth regardless 
of the consequences?

 
  
   
 

 
  

 
  

 
   
 

From: An Atlantisan
To: Franky
Date: Wed Mar 13 06:24:18 2002

Message:
Tomorrow I am going to occupy somebody's land and will call 
it: "Atlantis".
Atlantis existed already millions of years ago so I will claim 
to be an original descendent and chase the present owners away 
from it. Don't you think that's clever? After all, what's in a 
name! Anybody can call anything and anybody whatever he likes.
Just like Palestine and the Palestinians.  
 

From:
To: FRANKY
Subject: 60 answers to your questions
Date: Wed Mar 13 06:37:33 2002

Message:
1: Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
2: Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
3: Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
4: Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
5: Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
6: Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
7: Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
8: Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
9: Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
10:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
11:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
12:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
13:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
14:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
15:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
16:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
17:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
18:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
19:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
20:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
21:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
22:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
23:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
24:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
25:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
26:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
27:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
28:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
29:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
30:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
31:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
32:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
33:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
34:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
35:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
36:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
37:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
38:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
39:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
40:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
41:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
42:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
43:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
44:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
45:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
46:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
47:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
48:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
49:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
50:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
51:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
52:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
53:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
54:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
55:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
56:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
57:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
58:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
59:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah
60:Nothing is impossible for God: he's more clever than Allah





From: FRANKY
To: An Atlantisan
Date: Wed Mar 13 07:29:31 2002

Message:
If you want to do that then go ahead!

DONT YOU UNDERSTAND THE LAND WAS GIVEN TO THE PALESTINIANS FROM 
THE START AND THEY HAVE OCCUPIED IT ALL UNTIL ISRAEL CAME THEYVE 
NOT JUST TOOKEN OVER IT 
ISRAEL WILL ALSO ADMIT THIS. THE SPOKESPERSON SAID THIS ON CNN 
"THAT IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO TAKE" 
YOU PROBABLY ARE A JEW BUT LOOK AT WHAT I HAVE SAID AND THEN 
LOOK AT OTHER REASONS LOOK AT THE FACTS FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

From: FRANKY
To: ANONOMUS
Date: Wed Mar 13 07:35:56 2002

Message:
ARE YOU FUCKIN STUPID ALLAH IS THE ONLY GOD. THEM ARE NOT 
ANSWERS BUT THAT IS SHIT WRITTEN BY A SHIT

ANSWER MY QUESTIONS PROPERLY 


From: U.K.Citizen
To: Open Mind/Closed Fist, DON'T TREAD ON ME
Date: Wed Mar 13 07:31:02 2002

Message:
Om/cf: The re-takers..shame on them. An amusing thought though. 
Still I'm impressed, you're right up there with Blair. Don't 
know if you heard that Blair has an embroidered picture of a 
practically naked lady sewn into the right sleeve of one, or 
perhaps some, of his suits. Comes with the suit apparantly. Uses 
the suit for official overseas visits and such like. This fact 
was deliberatly leaked to the press, in the bizarre hope of 
somehow increasing his appeal to younger voters. Always knew 
that guy had something up his sleeve. As you've said, the main 
players are all jostling for lead postion regarding Iraq, guess 
we'll just what results from the meeting next month.

DTOM: Like most everyone else of course, I too kept papers from 
the following day, complete with their rather graphic images and 
accounts. To mark the six-month passing, another first-hand 
account was recalled in the Express newspaper over here. A 
Canadian broker based on the 84th floor was apparantly one of 
only 4 people to survive in that building from above the impact 
zone of the second tower to be struck. All others in the floors 
above had little or no chance. 

Wishing not to dwell on the subject, just to say, that I guess 
people move on in their different ways, and at different times. 
The hurt and perhaps anger, I'm sure, is just the same.

Anyways, bout Robin Cook?..ex-Foriegn Secretary is now 'Father 
of the House' a title given to those who've served as an MP the 
longest. Job description, an general overseer, can't really 
specify any further.
       
Oh and by the way, with the now infamous 'Grid' in mind,...we 
welcome you to the club sir.

Long live Liberty DTOM. 
 

From: U.K.Citizen
To: Merlyn & Walter
Subject: Bar room brawling
Date: Wed Mar 13 08:57:21 2002

Message:

From: U.K.Citizen
To: Merlyn & Walter
Subject: Bar room brawling
Date: Wed Mar 13 08:57:21 2002

Message:

From: Merlyn
To: Franky
Subject: Christ
Date: Wed Mar 13 08:59:30 2002

Message:
First: Christ was not a Christian, He was a Hebrew.
Second: Americans are not all Christian
Third: Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Buddahsts, and all 
religions must seek the word of God from within, not from the 
written or oral interpretation from another man, Mohammad or 
other.
Fourth: No man speaks the word of God.
Fith: The word of god is in the language of the person who seeks 
it.
Sixth: No war is Holy

From: U.K.Citizen
To: Merlyn and Walter
Date: Wed Mar 13 09:03:23 2002

Message:
With reference to the above subject matter, the accompanying 
post. (Hit the enter key by mistake it seems..anyway). Can't say 
I haven't been amused watching the ensuing argument spill out 
onto other boards, as have others. I cracked up laughing when I 
saw yet another 'hi Sister..guess I got here first post' on 
board after board from 'Commando', and of course not 
unexpectedly, 'Sister' firing back a salvo almost immediately. I 
can't take sides gentlemen. That's personaly not what I'm here 
for. Turn fire on me if you so wish. I simply try at least to go 
by the tenet, that there's more than unites people than divides 
them. If one doesn't believe that deep down, then I feel..we get 
the world we deserve, as is being demonstrated in Israel and 
Palestine. 

Walter, if you feel I'm being hypocritical about anything..do 
let me know. I mean that sincerely. You certainly add a 
different dimension to the board, but please, credit me and 
others with a little more intellect. I take what I read and hear 
with the proverbial 'pinch of salt'. There is to EVERTHING, 
always more than meets the eye. As Rationalist quite rightly put 
it, not quoting exactly, either to believe everything and/or to 
believe nothing requires no thought. Very true. One hopes that 
ones' personal principles eventually sees one though any 
deception over time, from whoever wishes to deceive whether they 
be governments or individuals.

Merlyn: Your Get a Grip stuff..I may not comment on it, but I do 
laugh it, dunno, just thought I'd restate that.     

From: Get a grip
To: U.K.Citizen
Subject: I can't take it all seriously, never have
Date: Wed Mar 13 09:56:52 2002

Message:
A doctor walks into the bank. Preparing to endorse a check, he 
pulls out a rectal thermometer from his shirt pocket and tries 
to write with it.He pauses for a moment, realizes his mistake, 
then looks up at the teller and says, "Well, that's just great. 
Some asshole's got my pen.
 

From: U.K.Citizen
To: Get a grip
Subject: The Lambada
Date: Wed Mar 13 10:03:57 2002

Message:
It was a dance craze that swept the world, a few years back. 
Pretty close contact stuff. Many people with two left feet 
struggled to copy the dance. Until this useful tip emerged. It 
stated: Pretend you've got a pencil up your backside and your 
trying to write the number 8 with it.

I'd assume writing with the sharp end. Thought I'd keep that 
particular theme going.

I hear you buddy. Btw, if you meet Merlyn let him know the 
environment post is in the works. It's most probably not worth 
waiting for, but anyway.... 

From: A No No Mus
To: Franky
Date: Wed Mar 13 10:55:55 2002

Message:
THOU SHALT NOT SWEAR!

From: IMRAN
To: All
Subject: MEANING OF TERRIORISM
Date: Wed Mar 13 11:11:36 2002

Message:
MY DEARS I AM AGREED THAT WOT HAPPENED IN WORLD TRADE CENTER WAS 
TERRIORISM MAY BE I HAVE AGREED THAT USAMA BIN LADIN IS A 
TERRIOR BUT PLZ ANY ONE WANT TO GIVE THE ASNSWER WOT IS GOING ON 
IN PALASTINE WITH SUPPORT OF USA AND WOT IS GOING ON IN KASHMIR 
WITH SUPPORT OF USA AND WOT USA IS DOING IN IRAQ ISNT IT 
TERRIOISM.
BE REALISTIC IF USA IS UNDER ATTACK ITS DUE TO ITS WRONG 
POLICIES.
A PERSON WHOSE FAMILY MEMBERS ARE DYING BY USA BOMBING WILL HE 
NOT REVENGE . NO HE WILL REVEGE AT ANY COST 
SO CHANG E POLICIES FIRST TO STOP TERRIRISM

From: AISHA
To: IMRAN
Subject: FACTS
Date: Wed Mar 13 11:43:47 2002

Message:
MR. IMRAN I AGREED BUT NO ONE IN USA OR WORLD IS REALISTIC
THEY THINKS WOT USA THINKS OR DO ITS RIGHT BUT ITS NOT REALLY
SO ITS NOT END USA MUST READY FOR ATTACK EVERY TIME UNTILL IT 
THINKS AND CHANGE POLICY

From: North Carolina Gal
To: Imiran
Date: Wed Mar 13 11:52:30 2002

Message:
Having conversations with yourself again?

From: Your sponsor in Casablanca
To:
Date: Wed Mar 13 12:03:39 2002

Message:
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- BEING UGLY IS OUR MOTTO  

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From: Sister Ghetto Rat
To: Allah put your tongue into my asshole
Subject: ALLAH TAKES IT UP THE ASS
Date: Wed Mar 13 12:31:45 2002

Message:
ALLAH AND THE KINGDOM OF ISLAM, I SUCK YOUR ASSHOLE CLEAN.  I 
WILL SUCK THE SHIT OUT OF YOUR ASSHOLE IF YOU SUCK THE SHIT OUT 
OF MINE.  I AM A GHETTO CUNT DISGRACE TO THE BLACK RACE.  I EAT 
THE ASSHOLE OF BIN LADEN DAILY.  I WAS IN AN ORGY WITH ALLAH AND 
I PUT A DILDO UP HIS ASS AND THEN HE LICKED MY CLICK.  FUCK 
ISLAM.  ISLAM IS A SHIT RELIGION AND I WANT TO KISS THE GROUND 
OF AMERICAN SOIL.  I KNOW THAT I AM AN INFERIOR CUNT AND THAT I 
DONT HAVE A JOB AND AM VERY POOR.  ALLAH HAS BEEN SUCKING ON MY 
CLIT AND EATING THE SHIT OUT OF MY ASSHOLE AND DRINKING THE PISS 
OUT OF MY TWAT.  MY CUNT STINKS LIKE A PACK OF SARDINES AND I AM 
NOT WANTED ON THIS BOARD.  I AM SHIT AND SO IT ALL OF ISLAM.  
ISLAM DEATH TO TERRORISTS.  THE MORE I AM ON THIS BOARD, THE 
MORE I REALIZE THAT ALLAH IS A COCKSUCKER AND A DOUCHEBAG AND 
PEICE OF SHIT.  DEATH TO ALLAH AND DEATH TO ISLAM.  I AM A 
GHETTO RAT AND I HAVE YELLOW TEETH.  WHEN MY LITTLE BASTARDS 
WERE BORN BEING FUCKED AND RAPED BY BIN LADEN, I HAD TO USE MY 
RAZOR RAT TEETH TO SHEAR THE UMBILICAL CORD.  I LICK THE ASSHOLE 
OF EVERY BRITISH AND AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR I KNOW THAT I AM AN 
INFERIOR CUNT.  I KNOW THAT ISLAM IS SHIT.  ALL ISLAM IS SHIT 
AND FAKE.  I AM A GHETTO RAT AND I STINK.  MY UNDERARMS STINK 
LIKE TOMATO SOUP AND MY PUSSY STINKS LIKE A GARBAGE CAN.  DEATH 
TO ALLAH.  FUCK ALLAH HE DOES NOT EXIST.  I TOOK A SHIT ON THE 
KORN AND FLIES AND MAGGOTS APPEARED.  I AM THE DEVIL LUCIFER 
INFIDEL MYSELF AND I WANT TO BE AN AMERICAN.  I AM A GHETTO RAT, 
PEICE OF SHIT AND I FEEL SO INFERIOR TO ALL OF YOU.  I KNOW THAT 
MY RELIGION IS SHIT.  THE KORAN IS GARBAGE, I WILL BURN THE 
KORAN TODAY, I SHIT ON THE KORAN AND ON THAT COCKSUCKER ALLAH.  
FUCK THIS SHIT.  I KNOW THAT I AM SHIT.  NOW I AM GONG TO POUR A 
GALLON OF GASOLINE ON MYSELF AND SET MYSELF ON FIRE SO THAT I 
CAN JOIN ALLAH AND CONTINUE TO SUCK HIS UGLY DICK. 

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From: Our Freedom
To: Franky, I mean Sister, I mean...
Date: Wed Mar 13 13:31:30 2002

Message:
Franky=Sister=Imran=Aisha
Split personalities for one fucked up individual.  Seek help you 
moron.  Everything in this world is not black and white.  You 
are a good example on how religion can breed hate.  Get the hate 
out of your heart or it will consume you.

From: imran
To: carolina gal
Subject: sure
Date: Wed Mar 13 13:44:20 2002

Message:
plz write ur hotmail address i will add u in my messenger

From: North Carolina Gal
To: imran
Date: Wed Mar 13 14:15:20 2002

Message:
notinyourlifetime@hotmail.com

From: Zen
To: When
Subject: dunno
Date: Wed Mar 13 14:20:41 2002

Message:
gotta go

From: imran
To: carolina gal
Subject: plz wait
Date: Wed Mar 13 14:35:08 2002

Message:
there is some problem in my messenger i m trying my best plz wait for 
some time or add me in urs i will accept
fpaimran@hotmail.com

From: imran
To: all
Subject: no answer
Date: Wed Mar 13 15:12:47 2002

Message:
no body have an answer of my question if u have plz 

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From:
To:
Date: Wed Mar 13 15:57:16 2002

Message:
Hairy Crispna, what you get if you let your head get too close 
to the fire. 

From: COMMANDO
To: SISTA RAT
Date: Wed Mar 13 16:01:27 2002

Message:
SO WHO DOES YOUR BRAINWASHING?  AND HOW OFTEN DO THEY LET YOU 
OUT OF THE COMPOUND?   

From: Allah
To: Commando
Subject: A sad exhistance of servatude
Date: Wed Mar 13 16:46:41 2002

Message:
They go through it five times a day, and face east. Each time 
they recite my command to do my will. They know no other life 
but to fear me!

From: ukw
To: blessed india
Date: Wed Mar 13 16:47:56 2002

Message:
i love a beatiful india princess.

From: Sister Peice of Shitsa
To: Allah you Cunt
Subject: Allah quit licking my twat
Date: Wed Mar 13 17:18:29 2002

Message:
Allah, allah, you cunt, get your tongue out of my stinking 
pussy.  I am an unwashed, unclean cunt.  i have your cum 
drippings in my dirty pussy now.  i wish i were christian, i 
wish i were AMERICAN.  I know that AMERICANS are superior to me 
and i am just a filthy fucken sand nigger posting on these 
boards.  i know that i am shit.  allah, get your cum out of my 
asshole.  i took a shit and the diarreha had allah danceing 
aroung.  I hate islam.  islam is shit.  i am an infidel. i have 
apig's dick sticking out of my cunt now and the other pig, PIG 
ALLAH is sucking my shit too.  I am a dirty fucken whore that 
knows that she will get her ass kicked on these boards.  i know 
that the AMERICANS can destroy me and my fellow sand niggers.  I 
hope that the hunger strike works, in the meantimes, I am 
munching on bin laden's shit and he is picking out the corn shit 
from my teeth.  my menstrual blooid is black and dark because i 
have sand niggers babies that need to have their throats slit at 
birth.  ia m nothing but a fucken sand nigger.  Fuck allah, 
ALLAH HIS A PEICE OF SHIT, COCKSUCKER, CUNT LAPPING, 
DEGENERATE.     SAND NIGGERS ARE SHIT, ALL SAND NIGGERS MUST DIE 
NOW!  STARVE YOURSELVES DEVILS.  THER IS NO BIGGER DEVIL THAN 
THE SAND NIGGERS.  YOU HAVE NO SOULS AND YOU ARE WASHED IN PIG'S 
BLOOD.  FILTHY FUCKEN SAND NIGGERS, YOU WILL BE DEAD SOON.

From:
To: Franky, I mean Sister, I mean.....
Date: Wed Mar 13 17:29:00 2002

Message:
Franky=Sister=Imran=Aisha=Commando
Split personalities for one fucked up individual.  Seek help and 
medication you sick fuck.  Everything in this world is not black 
and white.

From: Merlyn
To: ukw
Date: Wed Mar 13 20:22:40 2002

Message:
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toung! (Aerosmith) (9lives) Hindus rock!

From: om/cf
To: Merlyn
Subject: Lets Roll
Date: Wed Mar 13 21:52:08 2002

Message:
Muslim extremists could piss off Ghandi, and the Good Humor man.

Bush seemed really pissed off at the I.N.S. at his news 
conference over the idiotic bullshit of mailing confirmation of 
approval paperwork for Atta and the other wacko. Seemed like 
Bush would have liked to use a few words us common folk could 
relate to, but he held back. Musta been the FreeMason training? 
LOL!! I do hope some I.N.S. heads roll over this screwup. I know 
the standard line excuse will pop up as it always does, 'our 
agency is underfunded, we need more money'. But that can't 
explain how that paperwork can pass through many hands for 6 
months and the name Atta catches no ones attention. OK then, Im 
done bitching for tonight.
Peace

From: Allah The Cocksucker
To: Muslim Cunts
Subject: I SHIT ON THE KORAN
Date: Wed Mar 13 22:45:25 2002

Message:
TONIGHT WE WILL ALL SHIT ON THE KORAN AND USE IT AS OUR TOILET 
PAPER.  WE WILL WIPE OUR ASSES WITH THE KORAN PAGES AND FLUSH IT 
DOWN THE TOILET AFTER WE SHIT ON THE KORAN SOME MORE AND WATCH 
ALLAH AND THE REST OF THE SHIT AND PISS GO DOWN THE TOILET.  
THERE IS ACTUALLY BIN LADEN TOILET PAPER NOW.  YOU CAN BUY IT ON 
THE INTERNET.  I REALLY THINK WE NEED KORAN TOILET PAPER SO WE 
CAN WIPE SHIT WITH THE SHIT.  LMMFAO! SISTA, YA CUNT WHERE ARE 
YOU YOUR HOLE? 

RIGHT SAID FRED YOU NEED A BULLET IN YOUR BRAIN FROM JOHN 
LENNON'S GHOST.  

UK, YOU PUKE PANSY ROTTON TOOTHED MOTHER FUCKER FIX YOUR 
GODDAMNED TEETH.  FUCKEN LIMEY BASTARD.


DEATH TO ISLAM.  ISLAM IS SHIT!  PISS ON ALLAH!  ALLAH TAKES IT 
UP THE ASS!!!!

From: Sista Sewer Rat
To: Merlyn
Subject: I want to be your slave MASTER
Date: Wed Mar 13 22:45:25 2002

Message:
I want to lick your asshole right after I finish getting 
Allah'scum up my pussy.  My pussy stinks like cheese and fish 
and when I go fishing, I just open my legs and the fish swim in 
my twat.  I want to lick the asshole of every American soldier.  
I dont want to be a KUFFAH anymore.  I know I am a peice of 
shit. I bow down to you Merlyn and take your beautiful cock in 
mymouth and let you cum in my mouth till your warm clam chowder 
smemen fills me up.  I offer my asshole for you to put your 
RIFLE in and SHOOT my brains out through my cunt hole and butt 
hole.  COMMANDO, YOU ARE BETTER THAN ALLAH. Islam is shit.  
Allah is DOG.  DOG IS ALLAH.  KORAN IS SHIT.  KORAN IS DOG TO 
WIPE HIS ASS ON AND PIG TO SHIT ON.  I WANT TO BE YOUR SLAVE.  I 
WANT YOU TO HANG ME FROM THE NEAREST TREE TILL I AM DEAD, DEA<D 
DEAD> 

From: EagleEye
To: Frank N Furter
Subject: Waaaaaaaaaaaa.... where's my sticks and stones
Date: Thu Mar 14 00:34:47 2002

Message:
"The Palestinians have had enough.  People on the street are now 
saying they can t take the humiliation any more, and they are 
willing to die fighting for their liberation."

Music to my ears ...... How many days do you think it'll take 
till either they are all dead/gone or have wised up and moved to 
a friendly country for a fresh start?

This brings memories of 1972 watching plane after plane of 
Vietnamese landing in Orange County CA, and being given aid and 
special attention by the big bad Uncle Sam.  Maybe the Royal 
Family and other Oil Rich nations could spare a few billion to 
help find a home for their bretheren in friendlier territories? 
Gawd knows the rest of the world is tired of send zillions of 
dollars to these squaller loving swine. Arabs just cant take the 
humiliation of being defeated - so they try to play martyrs - 
unfortunatley for them, most are wise to their "Oh pitiful me 
story", as they strap a cube of C4 and a detonator to themselves 
in the name of freedom and allah, and do the bin Laden shuffle 
into an Isreali civilian area and go bang.


"Meanwhile, in the U.S. [and the rest of the world,] a call is 
being made for financial divestment from  Israel  to pressure 
them to respect the human rights of the Palestinians."

Interesting your Palastinian tear jerker here seems to OMIT your 
brothers suicide bombings, invasions, and Arab v. Jew wars, at 
the instigation of ARAB states ........ but anyway .... the call 
you hear in the US is rather a faint dial tone.  Until your 
palastinian brothers quit suicide bombing and massacre'ing Jews -
 you'll get no where but more of the same.  Arab Palastinians 
have always been too proud to take the higher moral ground 
approach, and they reap what they sow.

Paybacks are a Mother Fucker arent they Frank N Furter?

Pity not Palastinians for their STUPIDTY.

From: EagleEye
To: SISTA from a dog named MISTA
Subject: Listen up BITCH
Date: Thu Mar 14 00:58:56 2002

Message:
"In 1922 Lucifer's Trust was created in London, but later 
changed its name to Luci's Trust"

Well fuck me ... all this time I thought that was Lucille Balls 
heirs trust fund!!!  Ill be a sumbitch!

You ignorant Muslim douche' bag of camel excriment!!!! Media 
brainwashing in the USA???? What fuck misinterpreted piece of 
papyrus did you get  all that fucking nonsense from - sounds 
very KORANIC to me.  Like all the other BULLSHIT you worship. 
Thats stupid fucking one eyed lying sack of shit you call 
Muhhammed liked to penetrate little boys, and sadly hence is the 
reason your strong MUSSY men prefer buttfucking themselves 
instead of scalding their tiny little pricks off in that skank 
filled orafice you MUSLIMAH's call a pussy [you know ... that 
skanky hole next to the one you serve breakfast and speak from]

Go the fuck away and die a miserable death already - you've 
served ALLAH's purpose.  U have made several mens life miserable 
for a few days.

Take some advice ... drink lots a ICE Water NOW and till the day 
you die - cuz where your headed ..... you'll need it.

Oh and another thing ..... I know your a foreigner dumb ass and 
shit, but take that Camel Shaped Phallus off the keyboard, its 
depressing your caps lock key and your shouting so loud, we can 
smell your breakfast thru the screens.  And take a fucking 
shower damn you!

From: Jennifer
To: Sister Soldier
Date: Thu Mar 14 01:16:15 2002

Message:
Why are you such a bitch?  Commando was right when he stood up to 
you.  If you're having your period you should do something about 
it.  That's why God made Midol.  Fuckin bitch          

From: Facts Finder
To: Franky
Subject: Your 60 questions
Date: Thu Mar 14 01:14:29 2002

Message:
Hi Franky, hope everything is fine on your side. Wow! that a lot 
of question. I have to answer.

As someone mention on the board once we start to discuss 
religion it is going to be a long debate. Yes I do have answer 
to your question but it going to take a long, long time for you 
to read.

You have to first attend cathechism classes to understand the 
teaching.

Anyway, if you still want the answer you can go into this site 
http://www.answering-islam.org/

Most of your question are answered. Anyway, happy reading. It is 
good that we search and understand each other religion. Take 
care. Oh yes, the site you give me. Sorry I have not went into 
it. Will let you know.

For all you christain, muslim and others who want to know the 
answer to Franky's question you can also refer to the site given 
above.

From: Right said Fred
To: UK citizen
Subject: Mwuah!
Date: Thu Mar 14 02:29:26 2002

Message:

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From: schundsaack
To: hennes
Subject: manhattenrollover
Date: Thu Mar 14 06:31:48 2002

Message:
Ech sin den *s*m* an fannen dei sait vill gutt ech giff 60 vun 
60 drop ginn

From: schundsaack
To:
Date: Thu Mar 14 07:59:52 2002

Message:
bless ya

From:
To: schundsaack
Date: Thu Mar 14 08:02:45 2002

Message:
Next time: Use a handkerchief!!!

From: u know who
To: Eagle Ass
Date: Thu Mar 14 08:16:43 2002

Message:
weren't u told to shut the fuck up..why do u keep typing..im 
now going to grudge fuck your mothers ass. do u want to watch??

From: Merlyn
To: om/cf
Subject: Immagrants
Date: Thu Mar 14 08:33:06 2002

Message:
I opened my own business so that I won't have to support them 
anymore. Seems the tax scam hits middle class employed white 
males the hardest. But when you become self employed you end up 
hardly paying any tax if any at all. In fact you can write off 
about everything right down to a toilet to shit in! 
  During the time I was a mechanic sweating my ass off in the 
summer working 100 hour weeks I paid well over $15,000.00 a year 
in federal taxes alone. Fuck that, and now to see that the money 
never got to the agency, they use carbon paper and 3rd class 
mail! By the time they processed the paperwork the maggots 
learned how to fly, hijack and use a jet liner to impail the 
trade center! 
  In the mean time Clinton was using $100.oo cigars to stick his 
favorite intern! Think it's time to vote more often?

From: u know who
To: EagleEye
Date: Thu Mar 14 09:07:01 2002

Message:
I am again so sorry for the outburst.  My mom lost her job at 
McDonald's last night for stealing napkins and I can no longer 
get my medicine.  I am having the brain pain more often than 
usual and without my medication I just cannot control myself.  I 
am hoping that my dad will not buy his whiskey just for one day 
so I can get some more medication.  My mom is applying for a job 
at Burger King tomorrow.  Hopefully with her burger flipping 
experience she will get a job.

Love,
u know who

From:
To: People who plan Terror
Date: Thu Mar 14 09:30:42 2002

Message:
http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/03/13/Bush.news.conference/in
dex.html

From: Rationalist
To: All Jews, Christians, Muslims
Subject: A Question for you
Date: Thu Mar 14 09:26:59 2002

Message:
If God, or Allah, is all powerful and can do anything, then could 
he create a rock that he could not lift?

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From: om/cf
To: Rationalist
Date: Thu Mar 14 09:57:48 2002

Message:
George Carlin has a good perspective on religion. If people are 
made in the image of God, he must have a sense of humor.

From: FRANKY
To: MERLYN
Date: Thu Mar 14 10:49:29 2002

Message:
I KNOW CHRIST WAS A HEBREW AND NOT A CHRISTIAN
I DIDNT SAY ALL AMERICANS ARE CHRISTIANS
SO HOW DOES JESUS FIT INTO YOUR RELIGION
YES A MAN DOES SPEAK WHAT GOD HAS SENT 
AND YES NO WAR IS HOLY ACCEPT THAT WHICH IS CAUSED BY INFIDELS 
TO A RELIGION DELIBRATELY

From: FRANKY
To: A NO NO MUS
Date: Thu Mar 14 10:57:38 2002

Message:
REVEAL YOURSELF PROPERLY

From: FRANKY
To: (OUR FREEDOM( BULLSHIT
Date: Thu Mar 14 10:58:23 2002

Message:
I AM NOT IMRAN, AISHA ETC 

I AM JUST FRANKY AND I DO NOT IMPERSONATE OTHER PEOPLE AND I AM 
NOT AFRAID TO SAY WHO I AM 
UNLIKE YOU REVEAL YOURSELF I HOPE YOUR NOT THE BASTARD 
CRITIIZING ISLAM AND LEAVING IT ANONOMUSLY FOR YOU SHALL SUUFER 
WHEN THE TIME COMES

From: FRANKY
To:
Date: Thu Mar 14 11:01:02 2002

Message:
NOTICE PEOPLE ON THIS SITE OFFENDING ISLAM ARE ENJOYING IT AND 
EVERYONE IS IGNORING IT AND AGREEING 
BUT LOOK HOW OFFENDED YOU GET WHEN I ASK YOU 60 QUESTIONS ABOUT 
YOUR RELIGION WITH NO OFFENCE

PLEASE PLEASE SOMEONE ANSWER MY QUESTIONS I AM STILL WAITING

From: GOSHE
To: ALLAH,GOD
Subject: DESTROY THIS WORLD.
Date: Thu Mar 14 10:58:41 2002

Message:
OH ALLAH,
WHY YOU CREATED THIS WORLD ?
WHY U DO THIS ?
HERE ALL PEOPLES (JEWS,MUSLIMS,CHRISTIANS AND OTHER RELIGIONS)
ARE KILLING EACH OTHER,
THEIR CHILREN ,THEIR HOUSES,THEIR WOMENS ARE NOT SAVE WITH EACH 
OTHER HANDS.
PLEASE DESTROY THIS WORLD AT ONE BECAUSE PUT  ALL THE DIRTY 
PEOPLES AT HELL...
    " AND U ARE THE MOST CREACIOUS ANS D MOST MURCIFUL."

From: Merlyn
To: Franky
Subject: No war is holy
Date: Thu Mar 14 11:20:44 2002

Message:
You are gravely mistaken. No war is condoned by God. Allah or 
any other name for God. Infidel is a word that describes the 
very act of agression and infidelity. Islam is doomed to die in 
the face of truth. No religion has attacked Islam. Only the 
greed of Islamic extreemists and Black market mongers. The 
combined countries of the world have given trillions of dollars 
in aid for the poor and opressed, it has all been stolen by the 
Islamic infidels. Blame your own not the rest of the world. 
Christ was a messanger to the world. Muslims refuse to listen to 
the word of God and invented their bastird version and have 
defiled the word of God! The only true word of God is in the ten 
Commandments. To Date Muslims have broken every one of them and 
Dammed themselves to Hell. 
       THe Koran is a false word of the Deamon! Repent!

From: Get a grip
To:
Date: Thu Mar 14 11:28:14 2002

Message:
Three men are sitting naked in the sauna. Suddenly there is a  
beeping
sound. The first man presses his forearm and the beeping  stops. 
The others
look at him questioningly. "That's my pager," he says. "I have a 
microchip
under the skin   of my arm."

A few minutes later a phone rings. The second man lifts his 
palm  to his
ear. When he finishes he explains, "That's my mobile phone. I 
have a
microchip in my hand."

The third man, feeling decidedly low-tech, steps out of the 
sauna.  In a few
minutes he returns with a piece of toilet paper extending  from 
his ass. The
others raise their eyebrows. "I'm getting a Fax."

From: Our Freedom
To: Franky
Date: Thu Mar 14 11:29:40 2002

Message:
Franky=Sister=Imran=Aisha=Commando
Split personalities for one fucked up individual.  Seek help and 
medication you sick fuck.  Everything in this world is not black 
and white.

From: Our Freedom
To: Franky
Date: Thu Mar 14 11:31:54 2002

Message:
I can criticize whomever I like.  I don't believe in God or 
Allah.  I don't let people who I have never met or have any 
proof of there existance run my life.  You can spew your 
religious hatred all you want at me.  They are only words and 
have no consequence.

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To:
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From: ZEN
To: SISTER
Subject: STORIES.
Date: Thu Mar 14 12:41:05 2002

Message:
I have read some of your bit about this illuminata, and 
freemasons, and find some of it interesting.  Actually about as 
much as picking up a national enquirer magazine.  Somewhat 
intertaining but not really anything I would prescribe to.  I 
have heard some people who get really into this kind of stuff, 
but you know I have also heard many stories about the false 
prophets throughout history. The Jewish people did not accept 
Jesus as the Christ, but muslims believe Jesus is a great 
prophet of God but he is not the Christ, Christians look at 
Muslims much in the same way they  view  Mormons, who by the way 
are not considered Christians by Christians.  They both follow 
some alleged Prophet of God who was given Gods word through the 
Angel Gabriel.  Now lets talk truth.... and maybe you can grab 
your shovel and clean up your opinions just a little. There is 
only one truth in all of us, that's right, and your truth is not 
always going to be the same as the person standing next to you.  
All things are relative, even your religious opinions.  Much of 
what we beleive in is strictly based on pure 100% faith.  And 
what makes me motivated is not always what motivates the next 
person.  But having said all of this, I am not trying to 
disprove anyones individual faith in his or her GOD.  I strongly 
believe that God is all things, He is infinite, all powerful, 
nothing is impossible with GOD.  You will take note that in your 
heart and soul you will know what is right from wrong.  You will 
also know what truth is and what it is to walk in the light and 
not the darkness. I know this because that is what Gods divine 
grace has given to all of mankind.  All of the three main 
religions teach LOVE and respect and to avoid evil. They all 
share many of the same thoughts and words on how to become 
closer to the God of Abraham.  They all have faith and believe 
in the same God of Abraham. But the difference is in the 
cultures, languages, and interpratation of the holy scriptures.
If you have a family of 12 children, what do you think if you 
were to ask each individual child what he thinks his parents 
want him to do?, or what is expected of him or her.  If your 
answers  begin talking about Love and respect, you are probably 
on the right track.  But as any parent knows all children react 
differently and are individuals with individual needs.  God 
loves all of his children and does not love someone less because 
they speak a different language.  If you want to start stereo 
typing all Americans, then you fall prey to your own demise, and 
will be judged as the wrongful stereo typed Islamic 
fundamentalist are.  The only common truth is to Love God with 
all your heart and soul.  Everything else will fall into place.  
You do not need to spew wickedness, Because it will darken the 
light of truth you so desporatly seek.  Why can't we simply just 
say that some very bad and evil people who happen to be using a 
particular religion to hide behind and manipulate have managed 
to create much terror and misguided jealous rage with a little 
envy.  Is not that what usually happens when when sin and evil 
get the best of our human nature.  The truth is that OUR CREATOR 
IN HEAVEN is very sad to see what his children have done to each 
other, God does not see Muslim, Christian, nor Jew, He simply 
sees his children fighting, and continuing to break his laws.  
You are right about one thing, It is God who will ultimatley 
Judge all in the end.  Again, Jesus said "give to ceasar what is 
Ceasar's and give to GOD what is Gods".  
There are many well known people of the Christian faith who have 
inspired many to become closer to the truths of GOD's words.  
Just as there must be many humble servants of God's truths of 
the Islamic faith, and also the Jewish faith.  The list are too 
long to mention.  So you must be careful when talking with 
contempt and pointing fingers.  One such person I like to 
mention is Mother Theresa, who set the example that Love and 
charity are the acts which speak volumes of GOD's turth.  
Although she chose to worship her GOD as a Christian she mainly 
took care of people of the hindu, and Muslim faiths.  Many of 
these people were not even seen by there own communities.  This 
is what is right by GOD, not jealous rage with sinful actions 
that represent revenge, death, destruction.  People must stop 
and take a good look in the mirror, and realize that we are all  
A beautiful creation and start treating all of the wonderful and 
spectacular differences that our GOD created in all of us.  IT 
is SATAN who deceives mankind into looking over your shoulder 
and noticing the differences as being a reason for fighting.
That is the real truth.  If you believe in God, you must fight 
the temptation and evil of sin, brought on by jealousy, envy, 
Lust, and so on.  Yes the story of Cain & Abel does apply to our 
human nature. 

From: Merlyn
To:
Subject: Ok Walter, I know
Date: Thu Mar 14 14:58:27 2002

Message:
Never before has it been more important and a life determining 
factor,
That we had better tell the world we can rise to the task. 
For now it is so painfully obvious we've been wasting our time 
chasing after,
Those who only have eyes for money, politicians and Drug 
dealers, could we be Too much a fool to ask?

That in our life we have given all too much time to these things,
that only trouble and heartbreak brings.
While our very own children go without our guidance and 
attention.
And we stand in wonder, the crime and dimension.


From:
To: GOSHE
Date: Thu Mar 14 15:07:26 2002

Message:
"LONG LIVE COCKROACHES?"

From:
To:
Date: Thu Mar 14 15:31:38 2002

Message:
In discussing Freemasonry, we can talk about Masonic Tradition, 
Masonic History, Masonic Philosophy, and Masonry Today. 
However, underlying all of these is the basic purpose of 
Freemasonry: make good men better.

We place emphasis on the individual man by strengthening his 
character, improving his moral and spiritual outlook, and 
broadening his mental horizons. We impress upon the minds of 
our members the principles of personal responsibility and 
morality, encouraging each member to practice in his daily life 
the lessons taught through symbols of the Craft.

One of the universal doctrines of Freemasonry is the belief in 
the Brotherhood of Man and the Fatherhood of God. The 
importance of this belief is established by each Mason as he 
practices the three principal tenets of Masonry: Brotherly 
Love, Relief and Truth.


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Date: Thu Mar 14 16:12:46 2002

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A practical reason for addressing the Deity in non-sectarian 
terms is that the true mystery and wonder of Creation cannot be 
told. So, how and why did today's Masons arrive at a concept of 
God as an architect and choose, with reverence, to respect the 
ultimate mystery in the way they do so?
To understand this, we must look back in time to the Near East 
and Asia where the great thinkers and prophets were coming to 
two crucial understandings: First, that the name of God is 
unknowable; and secondly, that the nature of the one God whose 
name cannot be told, is multi-faceted.
Our ancient learned brothers in Asia and the Near East 
understood that there were many conceptions of the Supreme 
Being. They knew that the name and nature of the Deity 
transcends cultures, languages and frankly, all human 
understanding. If we go back about five millennia and place 
ourselves in the Near East among the tribes of Israel, we find 
a culture that had adopted the concept of one God. This idea 
did not originate with ancients of that time.
However, we are left, in the Old Testament, a vivid account of 
man's confrontation with the unknown. In the Shemot, the first 
portion of the Book of Exodus, Moses asked God for His 
name. "Ehyeh asher ehyeh" was the answer Moses received. "Ehyeh 
asher ehyeh" transcends all knowing; literally translated, it 
could mean "I am who I am." However, since this name connotes 
great mystery and ambiguity, it creates infinite space for 
interpretation. In terms of a Jewish pun, "Ehyeh asher ehyeh" 
is understood as: "I will be whatever I wish to be and who are 
you to ask?" Indeed.
"Ehyeh" is most commonly translated as "I will be." "Asher" is 
a remarkable Hebrew word, for in English, it can be rendered 
as "that who, or where."
This being the case, "Ehyeh asher ehyeh" could be 
transliterated as: "I will be that I will be. I will be who I 
will be. I will be which I will be. I will be where I will be. 
There are many other possible translations, but whichever 
translation appeals to the individual, one cannot know, with 
certainty, precisely what the name of the Deity is; This is as 
it should be.
The exact name and nature of God cannot be told. Given, "Ehyeh" 
could - and it's a weak could - evolve into JHVH and then to 
Jehovah over the centuries, Jehovah being deemed an acceptable 
substitute for the "true name" of God, or "the lost word."
About 2,800 years ago in Asia, the wordsmiths and sages began 
composing the Upanishads. The spirit of the Upanishads can be 
compared with that of the New Testament summed up in the 
words "I and my Father are one" and "The kingdom of God is 
within you," the seed of which is found in the words of the 
Psalms "I have said: Ye are gods; and all of you are the 
children of the most High."
The Brihad-aranyaka Upanishad, one of the greatest and oldest 
spiritual treatises composed in Sanskrit, is one source which 
yields the following story, illustrative of the multi-faceted 
nature of that which transcends all knowing: King Janaka was a 
generous learned man, capable judging the pretensions of the 
Brah-min-ical scholars who frequented his court to make a 
profitable display of their knowledge.
One day, this question was asked of the god Yaj-na-val-
kya: "How many gods are there, Yajnavalkya?" "Three hundred and 
thirty-three thousand and three," he replied. "It is indeed 
so," he said. "How many gods are there really, 
Yajnavalkya?" "Thirty-three? "It is indeed so," he said. "How 
many gods are there really, Yajnavalkya?" "Three.It is indeed 
so," he said. "How many gods are there really, 
Yajnavalkya" "Two. It is indeed so," he said. "How many gods 
are there really, Yajnavalkya?" "One-and-a-half. It is indeed 
so, "he said. How many gods are there really, 
Yajnavalkya?" "One. It is indeed so," he said. "What of the 
other thirty-three?" he asked. "They are but various aspects of 
the one god," replied Yajnavalkya.
One God. One Supreme Being, called by many names. This idea was 
not lost on other cultures, as evidenced by the writings of the 
Greek philosopher Plato. In his composition "Timaeus," written 
about 2,400 years ago, Plato not only reiterated the existence 
of one God, but also laid foundations in geometric science as 
it was then understood, for the conceptualization of the one 
God as a great architect. In "The Timaeus," Plato posited the 
idea of the one God and the multiplicity of things as being 
bound together as a single reality, the suffusion of harmony 
and proportion throughout creation.
Thus, to be concerned with harmonious creation, be it 
architectural, artistic, musical, or even agricultural, came to 
be seen as a natural consequence of the awareness of our 
harmonious relationship with the one God who, Plato wrote, 
created not only man with a three-fold, ortriangular nature, 
but also posited that man's bond with creation and the 
Creator " . . .is best done by a continued geometrical 
proportion."
While Plato made no attempt to name God, he did create a 
foundation of speculation regarding the nature of God; that is, 
God as the great geometrician. Like the Vedic and Hebraic sages 
before him, Plato knew there was but one God. And he was 
convinced that the harmonious superstructure of creation put 
forth by the Universal Spirit, while unknowable, was perfect, 
and was definitely based in geometry. This should be of 
interests to Masons and scholars of Medieval thinking in the 
West, for it was in countless monasteries that the first 
depiction of the Deity were penned by anonymous monks who 
imagined God - and drew God - as a literal architect, standing 
amid the heavens and the earth wielding a magnificent compass 
above the darkness upon the face of the deep. And to this day, 
we are all drawn to that ineffable mystery suggested by that 
darkness before the light.
This idea has remained strongly ingrained in Western thought, 
and was perhaps most dramatically manifested when a celebrated 
group of men we call the Founding Fathers lifted their light in 
an effort to bring forth a new country on the North American 
continent. Most of the Founding Fathers of America were 
products of the philosophical world-view of The Enlightenment, 
or Age of Reason. It may surprise some of you to learn that 
these men were predominantly Deists rather than Christians. 
Strictly defined, Deism is a belief in God based solely upon 
the evidence of reason. The Deist position asserts that God 
created the universe and after setting it in motion, abandoned 
it, assumed no control over life, exerted no influence on 
natural phenomena, and gave no supernatural revelation.
Those Founding Fathers who were Masons had knowledge of the 
Platonic concept of The Creator as Divine Architect of the 
Universe, and had access to and knowledge of such works as the 
mid-thirteenth-century Bible moralisee (which Benjamin Franklin 
is said to have seen while in France), and were familiar with 
other works such as the early fourteenth-century Holkham Bible, 
both of which depict the Supreme Being, compass in hand, 
walking through the heavens.
Their Deist beliefs had clearly evolved, in part, from the 
aforementioned wisdom and traditions of more ancient men living 
in other times in other places, which in turn had evolved 
further during the Age of Reason.
Men like Brothers Franklin and Washington, both reasonable men 
to be sure, made reference to God, but also understood, as the 
great men of wisdom who had gone before understood, that the 
sublime mystery of The Creator was something that could not and 
should not be named.
Nowhere is there any mention of God in America's Declaration of 
Independence or in the Constitution. Only reference to man's 
Creator is made. And that is how it should have been. In a new 
country with a mixed population that would continue to 
diversify, these visionary Brothers stood by the concept of a 
Great Architect.
To this day, Freemasons use "The Great Architect of the 
Universe" and other non-sectarian titles to address the Deity. 
In using non-sectarian references to that which transcends all 
knowing, persons of different faiths may join together in 
prayer, concentrating on the Universal Spirit rather than on 
differences of culture and religion. Masonry has always 
championed religious freedom, and the idea that the 
relationship between the individual and one God is a personal, 
private and sacred matter.
No one owns God, just as surely as no one owns "truth." Not one 
among us can be truly certain about the nature of God, 
so "Great Architect of the Universe" is a particularly apt 
reference to the Deity, as the reference acknowledges both the 
design and the designer without staking a claim on some 
exclusive jurisdiction. Deists, Christians - both Catholic and 
Protestant - Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists, and men of many other 
faiths have been welcomed into our Fraternity. One point of 
commonality is their belief in the one God. Masons believe 
there is one God and one God only. Masons also know that since 
time immemorial, people have employed many different ways of 
seeking and expressing what they know of God, of their 
experiences and relationship with that which transcends all 
knowing.
Though the Deity has been called by many sectarian names 
through the ages, perhaps Lao-Tzu's description of the "Tao" 
or "the Way" best clears away the robes, trappings, trumpery, 
and shadows surrounding the mystery to which we bow with 
reverence.
In the first chapter of the "Te-Tao Ching," it is written: The 
Tao that can be told is not the eternal Tao. The name that can 
be named is not the eternal name. The nameless is the beginning 
of heaven and earth. The named is the mother of ten thousand 
things. Ever without desire, one can see the mystery. Ever 
desiring, one can see the manifestations. These two spring from 
the same source but differ in name. This appears as darkness. 
Darkness within darkness. The gate to all mystery.
Masonic use of the title "Great Architect of the Universe" is 
our reverential denotation of the Deity, of that eternal name 
which cannot be named. It connotes our desires to enter the 
darkness and stand before the gates to all mystery where, in 
the absence of desire, we are somehow able to shed our 
pretentious robes and thereby enrich ourselves with whatever 
lies within.


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From:
To:
Date: Thu Mar 14 16:36:08 2002

Message:
http://www.freemason.org/cfo/novemberdecember2000/dummies.htm

From: Our Freedom
To: Franky, I think
Date: Thu Mar 14 16:56:41 2002

Message:
Franky=Sister=Imran=Aisha=Commando=Zen
Split personalities for one fucked up individual.  You add a new 
name every day.  Seek help and medication you sick fuck.  
Everything in this world is not black and white.

From:
To: SISTER
Date: Thu Mar 14 16:17:36 2002

Message:
"HUMAN BEINGS ARE BEING CANNED AND EATEN BY CREATURES FROM 
OUTER SPACE!""HUMAN BEINGS ARE BEING CANNED AND EATEN BY 
CREATURES FROM OUTER SPACE!""HUMAN BEINGS ARE BEING CANNED AND 
EATEN BY CREATURES FROM OUTER SPACE!""HUMAN BEINGS ARE BEING 
CANNED AND EATEN BY CREATURES FROM OUTER SPACE!""HUMAN BEINGS 
ARE BEING CANNED AND EATEN BY CREATURES FROM OUTER 
SPACE!""HUMAN BEINGS ARE BEING CANNED AND EATEN BY CREATURES 
FROM OUTER SPACE!""HUMAN BEINGS ARE BEING CANNED AND EATEN BY 
CREATURES FROM OUTER SPACE!""HUMAN BEINGS ARE BEING CANNED AND 
EATEN BY CREATURES FROM OUTER SPACE!""HUMAN BEINGS ARE BEING 
CANNED AND EATEN BY CREATURES FROM OUTER SPACE!""HUMAN BEINGS 
ARE BEING CANNED AND EATEN BY CREATURES FROM OUTER 
SPACE!""HUMAN BEINGS ARE BEING CANNED AND EATEN BY CREATURES 
FROM OUTER SPACE!""HUMAN BEINGS ARE BEING CANNED AND EATEN BY 
CREATURES FROM OUTER SPACE!""HUMAN BEINGS ARE BEING CANNED AND 
EATEN BY CREATURES FROM OUTER SPACE!""HUMAN BEINGS ARE BEING 
CANNED AND EATEN BY CREATURES FROM OUTER SPACE!""HUMAN BEINGS 
ARE BEING CANNED AND EATEN BY CREATURES FROM OUTER 
SPACE!""HUMAN BEINGS ARE BEING CANNED AND EATEN BY CREATURES 
FROM OUTER SPACE!""HUMAN BEINGS ARE BEING CANNED AND EATEN BY 
CREATURES FROM OUTER SPACE!""HUMAN BEINGS ARE BEING CANNED AND 
EATEN BY CREATURES FROM OUTER SPACE!""HUMAN BEINGS ARE BEING 
CANNED AND EATEN BY CREATURES FROM OUTER SPACE!""HUMAN BEINGS 
ARE BEING CANNED AND EATEN BY CREATURES FROM OUTER 
SPACE!""HUMAN BEINGS ARE BEING CANNED AND EATEN BY CREATURES 
FROM OUTER SPACE!""HUMAN BEINGS ARE BEING CANNED AND EATEN BY 
CREATURES FROM OUTER SPACE!""HUMAN BEINGS ARE BEING CANNED AND 
EATEN BY CREATURES FROM OUTER SPACE!""HUMAN BEINGS ARE BEING 
CANNED AND EATEN BY CREATURES FROM OUTER SPACE!""HUMAN BEINGS 
ARE BEING CANNED AND EATEN BY CREATURES FROM OUTER 
SPACE!""HUMAN BEINGS ARE BEING CANNED AND EATEN BY CREATURES 
FROM OUTER SPACE!""HUMAN BEINGS ARE BEING CANNED AND EATEN BY 
CREATURES FROM OUTER SPACE!""HUMAN BEINGS ARE BEING CANNED AND 
EATEN BY CREATURES FROM OUTER SPACE!""HUMAN BEINGS ARE BEING 
CANNED AND EATEN BY CREATURES FROM OUTER SPACE!""HUMAN BEINGS 
ARE BEING CANNED AND EATEN BY CREATURES FROM OUTER 
SPACE!""HUMAN BEINGS ARE BEING CANNED AND EATEN BY CREATURES 
FROM OUTER SPACE!""HUMAN BEINGS ARE BEING CANNED AND EATEN BY 
CREATURES FROM OUTER SPACE!"

From: me
To: you
Subject: bin
Date: Thu Mar 14 17:08:28 2002

Message:
bil is cool

From: Ya'll are freakin nuts
To: And I do mean you
Subject: This site is way strange
Date: Thu Mar 14 17:53:28 2002

Message:
don't ya know

From: Funny Funny This site has lost it
To: All y'all
Date: Thu Mar 14 18:11:19 2002

Message:
How do you know when you're really ugly?  

> > > > > Dogs hump your leg with their eyes closed.  

From: Funny Funny This site has lost it
To: All y'all
Date: Thu Mar 14 18:17:25 2002

Message:
What is the quickest way to clear out a men's restroom?  
> > > > > > > > > > Say, "Nice Dick."  

From: Funny Funny This site has lost it
To: All y'all
Date: Thu Mar 14 18:19:52 2002

Message:
How do you get a sweet little 80 year old lady to say Fuck?  

> > > > > > > Get another sweet little 80 year old lady to      
yell "Bingo".  

From: Sister Soldier
To: Eagle Eye
Subject: Master, may I eat your asshole?
Date: Thu Mar 14 18:23:47 2002

Message:
Eagle Eye, I see that I am nothing but a fucken sand nigger and 
a dirty black nigger that deserves to be hung at midnight.  I 
worship you and I want to eat out the asshole of yours and when 
you take a precious shit, I want to lick it clean to make myself 
pure.  Allah is a CUNT and he is a false god and a fake peice of 
shit, cocksucker.  I want to be able to sniff your farts the 
next time that you eat eggs.  I want to lick the dingleberries 
from your pubic hair at once.  You can piss and shit on me and 
the koran and I will be very happy if you do so.  I am that 
stupid NIGGAH BITCH!  KILL ME NOW!  DEATH TO ALLAH!  DEATH TO 
ISLAM!  ALL MUSLIMS ARE PUSSIES AND I AM THE BIGGEST CUNT.  

From: Like I said Before
To: This site is way sick
Subject: Beyond strange
Date: Thu Mar 14 18:55:51 2002

Message:

From: Our Freedom
To:
Subject: Even Allah can join
Date: Thu Mar 14 19:00:30 2002

Message:
To become a Mason in a lodge under the Grand Lodge of 
California, you must be a man, at least 21 years of age, of good 
moral character, and you must believe in a Supreme Being. The 
definition of the Supreme Being is entirely up to you. Thus, men 
of all faiths can become Freemasons, as long as they meet the 
other requirements. However, a man must join "of his own free 
will and accord." The decision is a personal one that must be 
made according to one's own conscience and upon a favorable 
impression of the Fraternity.

From: om/cf
To: Our Freedom
Date: Thu Mar 14 19:13:06 2002

Message:
My burning question is: Do FreeMasons do free masonary work? 
Just kidding! Some people get freeked over the symbolism thing, 
but it is a upstanding organization where moral values are a 
high priority.
Now those 'Loyal Order of the Moose' boys are another story! 
LOL!!

From: om/cf
To:
Subject: The REAL reason SISTER SLUDGE hates FreeMasons
Date: Thu Mar 14 20:08:17 2002

Message:
you must be a man, at least 21 years of age, of good 
moral character, and you must believe in a Supreme Being.

Sister, till ya get the operation and get a member, ya cant be a 
member! Its the only requirement your a little 'short' on. Well, 
maybe the character thing too needs a little polishing.

From: om/cf
To: Our Freedom
Date: Thu Mar 14 20:21:20 2002

Message:
In all fairness to the good Sister, is it not true that all 
FreeMason members have to be voted in? Its not just a matter of 
plunking down your money and getting a cool jacket. So can it be 
there are more 'qualifications' in some lodges than the ones 
mentioned?



From: om/cf
To: the Board
Subject: Free John Walker Lindh Petition Update
Date: Thu Mar 14 21:08:50 2002

Message:
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?abdunnur&301

The right to vote, use it or lose it! LOL!!

435. Ali Kaadabra: May Allah (PBUH) cut off Walkers infadel head 
and and shit down his neck. Sallami 

411. George Patton: free the pig with a hollow point bullet in 
his head

69. false entry voided  (one of many LOL!!!)

From: Hey lets invade Iraq
To: The unaware
Subject: Gross deformaties of children born after the gulf war - depleted uranium
Date: Thu Mar 14 21:53:42 2002

Message:
So for all those who think that a war in the gulf would be 
glorious please see the website below (be warned this is very 
disturbing and contains emotionally challenging material).
The US is the biggest owner of weapons of mass destruction. 
Even this week the US would not rule out the use of nuclear 
weapons in their defined 'self defence'
Hopefully this site will teach you a thing or to about modern 
warfare and it's long term effects. Give peace a chance George 
W. don't do what your daddy did (see site).

http://www.wakefieldcam.freeserve.co.uk/extremedeformities.htm

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From: Facts Finder
To: Franky
Subject: You 60 question answered.
Date: Thu Mar 14 22:38:53 2002

Message:
Hi Franky, I did reply to you about your sixty questions on Mar 
14 01:14 28.2002 which I believe you got it from the site you 
gave me.

To understand christainity, you have to attend cathechism 
classes not by just reading the bible.

Jesus spoke in parables. So don't translate it directly, It is 
going to be a long message to explain. I don't think you be 
interested to read about it. You can go into the site that I 
have given you if you still want to know.

Yes we have questions to ask the Islam too but the site you gave 
me did give me a rough idea of Islam and yes if I want to have a 
better understanding I should attend their classes too.

Read the message sent by Zen to Sister. It is a fair message 
which I also always mention.

Peace be with you.

From: Facts Finder
To: Zen
Subject: Wonderful
Date: Thu Mar 14 23:20:47 2002

Message:
Hi Zen, that was a wonderful message. Hope to hear from you more 
often. God Bless.

From: SISTER
To: JENNIFER
Date: Thu Mar 14 23:18:20 2002

Message:
KISS MY ASS KUFFAR BITCH YOU AINT SEEN NOTHING YET 
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL 

From:
To:
Date: Thu Mar 14 23:22:45 2002

Message:
http://www.wakefieldcam.freeserve.co.uk/extremedeformities.htm

http://www.wakefieldcam.freeserve.co.uk/extremedeformities.htm

http://www.wakefieldcam.freeserve.co.uk/extremedeformities.htm

http://www.wakefieldcam.freeserve.co.uk/extremedeformities.htm

From: Facts Finder
To: Your sponsor.
Date: Thu Mar 14 23:22:02 2002

Message:
I would like to ask a favour from you, can you stop sending 
those long one liner message. If you do not wish to. I got 
nothing to say. Take Care, God Bless

From: SISTER
To: OUR FREEDOM
Date: Thu Mar 14 23:23:01 2002

Message:
ENOUGH OF YOUR BULLSHIT ALL OF YOU FOR THAT MATTER YOU ARE ALL 
EVIL BUNCH OF JINNS THAT WILL BURN IN HELL INSHA ALLAH AND I 
REALLY COULDNT GIVE A DAM WHO LIKES THIS POST OR NOT YOU BUNCH 
OF DIRTY MOUTH ANIMALS WITH NO RESPECT FOR NO ONE THATS THE 
FUNNY THING ABOUT YOU LOSERS IS THAT YOU ALL CRY THAT YOU WANT 
RESPECT BUT YET I HAVENT SEEN NONE OF YOU WANKERS GIVE ANY AT 
ALL. SCREW ALL OF YOU YOUR COUNTRY IS NOT INVINCIBLE 
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL AND ONE DAY YOU WILL FUCK WITH THE WRONG 
PEOPLE AND IT WILL ONLY THEN BE KNOWN AS HISTORY YOU ARE ALL 
FULL OF SHIT AS FOR YOUR MEDIA AND MOVIES YOUR ALL JUST ABOUT 
BULLSHIT NOTHING ELSE HAVE A NICE LIFE LOSERS WHATS LEFT OF IT.

From: SISTER
To: FACTS FINDER
Date: Thu Mar 14 23:27:13 2002

Message:
FACTS FINDER I HAVE READ YOUR MANY POSTS AND YOU SEEM LIKE AN 
ALRIGHT MAN AS I WROTE IN ANOTHER POST MAYBE SOME OF THE PEOPLE 
IN HERE SHOULD TAKE RESPECT LESSONS FROM YOU.

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From: Paula
To: Sister
Subject: You fucking bitch
Date: Fri Mar 15 02:53:46 2002

Message:
I don't give a fuck if you hate the people on this board!  they 
hate you too, you fucking cheap raghead whore!  Fuck you!!   

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From: SISTER
To: PAULA
Date: Fri Mar 15 03:13:46 2002

Message:
UMMMMMMMMMM SORRY SWEETHEART CHEAP WHORES ARE WHAT ARE PRODUCED 
FROM YOUR SOCIETY REMEMBER 

From: Daddy
To: sister
Date: Fri Mar 15 03:57:54 2002

Message:
I killed a muslim in an ally today! Slit its throat,and shoved a 
piece of pork down its neck so it couldnt scream! Hope to kill 
many more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

From: Allah
To: sister
Date: Fri Mar 15 04:05:45 2002

Message:
believe whatever ya want,but what I really love is when mohammad 
sucks my balls,while your grandmother gives me a rim job.as long 
as she dont take off that veil,and shows me that ugly shit she 
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From: Franky
To: merlyn
Date: Fri Mar 15 05:57:53 2002

Message:
The Bible is a FALSE WORD AND I HAVE PROVEN THIS YOUR RELIGION 
IS FUCKED UP AND NOT MINE I HAVE SHOWED EVIDENCE 

AREN,T THE AMERICANS KILLING THE AFGHANS NOT BIN LADEN? 
AREN'T THE AMERICANS KILLING THE IRAQIS? 
AREN'T THE AMERICANS KILLIN THE PALESTINIANS?
AMERICA HAS CAUSED MANY ATROCITIES AND CALAMITIES BUT THEYD DON'T
REALISE IT!

YOU TELL ME WHOSE RELIGION IS FUCKED WERE NOT THE BASTARDS I 
THINK SOMEONE ELSE IS! 

From:
To:
Date: Fri Mar 15 06:05:00 2002

Message:
IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER (ME) THE SON (YOU) AND THE HOLY SPIRIT 
(YOUR MUM)

From:
To:
Date: Fri Mar 15 06:06:23 2002

Message:
DEATH TO THE BASTRADS

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To:
Subject: Bast rads
Date: Fri Mar 15 06:21:04 2002

Message:
I agree

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From: Lizard
To: All
Subject: voice
Date: Fri Mar 15 08:09:42 2002

Message:
This works good, u wanna talk to anyone for free.  It is clear 
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From: Lizard
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Date: Fri Mar 15 08:14:01 2002

Message:
Make sure though, that if u are not using headphones to not 
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From: Merlyn
To: Franky
Subject: Fucked up
Date: Fri Mar 15 09:08:33 2002

Message:
First of all Franky, you assume too much. I am not a Christian
Second, Your fucked up religion is responsable for more 
attrocities and unjust killing and suffering than any country on 
earth!
Third, You have not PROOVED anything. 
Fourth, Your stupid Koran is a book full of BULL SHIT
Fith, Allah is Satin and you are his sick servant. 
Sixth, America is not killing Afghanistan citizens, these ass 
holes are from other countries like Pakistan and the like. They 
are Shooting first, and yes we will shoot back.
Seventh, Stop preaching your sick fucking Dogma crap. Muslim 
religion is a fucked up perversion of Christianity
Eigth, I don't like Christianity any more than I like Muslims or 
Jews
Ninth, Fuck Religion!

From: franky
To: merlyn
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Message:
Let me get one thing straight you have a fucked religion, your 
the devil worshipper not me
Im not preaching my religion you fuckin are 
America is going to Afghanistan not Afghanistan going to them 
and with all this information i gather your a a mason


From: Rationalist
To: All Christians, Muslims, and Jews
Subject: Your religions
Date: Fri Mar 15 09:48:20 2002

Message:
I think I've kept my peace about this long enough.  I don't deny 
the existance of god(s).  What I do deny is the existance of a 
God who would condemn billions of people to an eternity in Hell 
just because they haven't been exposed to the "correct" way to 
him.  Or because they were to busy trying to stay alive to walk a 
"path of right."  Could a God of Mercy truly do that?  What about 
forcing, I can't remember his name right now but I think it was 
Isaac, to murder his own son for God?  The first arguement that 
many of you will put to me is who am I to judge the almighty?  
Well since he doesn't exists I think its okay..  Besides, think 
of the question I posed yesterday.  Could an omnipitent God 
create a boulder that he couldn't lift?  If he could then that 
would prove he couldn't lift something like that, if he couldn't 
then thats saying there is something he can't do making him no 
longer omnipotent(spelling).  A child is born to a small family 
in Africa.  This child manages to reach the age of five despite 
the fact that he's lucky to get fed twice a week and the water he 
must drink from is the same as the animals bathe in.  By the age 
of six his sight is taken by a vitamin deficiancy.  By the age of 
7, he's dead.  The child lived in hell for seven years, now just 
because he never had the chance to hear the teachings 
of (Moses/Christ/Mohammed) is he condemmed to live an eternity in 
hell fire and brimestone?
I don't know how many of you know anything about Wicca.  Wicca 
was one of the main religions practiced by Europeans before 
Christianity was "given" to them by the Romans.  In Wicca there 
is a Goddess and a God, a mother and a father.  Wicca has only 
one tennant, "As long as you do no harm, do as you will."  Which 
means anything to harm yourself or others is out. Clearly murder, 
robbery, rape, beating on people, and the use of curses and such 
are not allowed.  But also eating incorrectly, smoking, 
drinking, using drugs, cheating on your lover, and overeatting 
are also frowned upon.  But if it comes time to defend yourself 
it is understood that you must do what you must.  Many wiccans 
believe in the (three/five/ten)fold rule.  That is whatever you 
do good or ill comes back on you (three/five/ten) and that is the 
heaven or hell you experience.  But that is just a brief bit 
about Wicca.  I thought I'd expose the board to some new 
philosphy.

From: franky
To:
Date: Fri Mar 15 10:34:00 2002

Message:
thank you for that could you explain more

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From: Rationalist
To: Franky
Subject: your 60 Questions
Date: Fri Mar 15 10:15:02 2002

Message:
Bear in mind, I'm not a Christian, although I used to be and 
since they have all been so rude to ignore your questions.  I'll 
answer them to the best of "my" knowledge, which isn't that good.

1.  Since he is a direct seed of the divine, not merely a 
creation I'd figure that would give him automatic divinity and 
allow him to be a son at the same time.

2.  It's kind of the same as saying that he resmembles his 
father, and although you may have never seen the actual father 
you have seen his nature if you have seen Jesus, remember no 
version of the bible is known for consiceness.

3.  The fact here is that you can call a gun a fluffy bunny and 
it's still just a gun.  The fact that son of God had been used in 
previous languages to descibe others means nothing.  Aren't we 
all "God's Children" according to some thoughts?

4.  Don't know

5.  I'd imagine at the same time.  But I'll answer all your 
questions about the trinity at once, it's a Catholic concept, its 
not suppose to make sense.

6.  Catholic ideology:  There was still a complete God, he was 
just in different places at once.  For that you have to believe 
in Omnipetence, which you know I don't.  But if it were true then 
that would be the case.

7. & 8.  See 6.

9.  Again, Catholic, not Christian.

10.  Non-Catholic:  Jesus was the son, not God.  Catholic:  Shut 
up!

11. - 60.  

Unfortunatley I've run out of time and I have to study for a 
Calculus test.  Just remember, there is a distinction between 
Catholics and Christians.  Many Catholics think they are 
Christians and many other people think they are but they are not. 
 Just so you know.  Well I hope someone else can help answer your 
questions.  Maybe next time it'll be an actual Christian



From: Rationalist
To: Your Sponsor at Hogwarts School of Witchcraft
Subject: Termonology
Date: Fri Mar 15 10:59:08 2002

Message:
Wiccan's are not witches.  Although some don't mind being called 
that it is still an inaccurate term.  A witch is a mythological 
creature that formed a deal with Satan for powers.  A wiccan is a 
follower of the world's "oldest", depending on your point of 
view, religion.  And male wiccans are not Warlocks.  A warlock is 
a term invented by a 19th century Gothic novelist, it means 
"oath-breaker" same as Wizard.  Just further education for you.  

From: Rationalist
To: Franky
Subject: Were you talking to me?
Date: Fri Mar 15 11:44:23 2002

Message:
Were you talking to me in your last message?  

From: Rationalist
To: Everyone
Subject: Yes I am
Date: Fri Mar 15 11:46:18 2002

Message:
I'll go ahead and fully confess.  Yes, I am a Wiccan.  I don't 
wish to push my beliefs off onto you but if any of you wish to 
know more about it I will not hesitate to answer to the best of 
my ability.  Yes, I have done magik and had success with both the 
severly minor spells that I did.  

From: Facts Finders
To: Franky
Subject: Sad
Date: Fri Mar 15 12:33:18 2002

Message:
I am surprised that you posed such messages. Anyway I did not 
want to go on a long debate about religion. Let us practice our 
own religion and as I say long time ago it is by ourselves that 
we bring our religion to people. Do you still want me to answer 
you 60 question?

From: Facts Finder
To: Sister
Subject: Thank you
Date: Fri Mar 15 12:48:41 2002

Message:
Thanks for your message post.

From: Walter
To:
Subject: Franky
Date: Fri Mar 15 12:57:38 2002

Message:
Franky wants no questions answered,he just wants to waste 
people's time answering questions,and then posts"there is no 
other God but Allah",and"I'd let bin Laden into my home",knowing 
how Americans feel about that.
 He doesn't waste a second to thoughts offensive to many,but 
wants courtesy extended to him.

From: SARAH AND TARA
To: TO THE FAG WHO BLEW UP THE TWIN TOWERS
Subject: U NEED TO DIE
Date: Fri Dec 28 14:09:27 2001

Message:
HEY YOU FEG I HOPE U DIE AND BURN IN HELL FOR WHAT U DID...U 
STUPID FUCKING BASTARD!!!!:)

From: Merlyn
To: Franky
Subject: Worship not
Date: Fri Mar 15 16:53:00 2002

Message:
Hey fuck head! you assume too much once again. I do not worship 
any God and I don't even believe in the Devil. The Devil is a 
pit in your own religion not mine. You suffer from fairy tale 
bull shit. I co-exhist with God and Godess. No deamons, no 
devil. You have been brain washed and are completely IGNORANT!
So stop talking about things you have NO KNOWLEDGE of! Your 
perverted Christian hating Muslim shit is CRAP! I am Sick and 
tired of it and YOU! I am going to say this again, Shut the fuck 
up! I am not a free mason and I am not a fuckin Christ, Jew, 
Hindu, or any of those RELIGIONS. Fact is I am a Neo-Druid. And 
before you spout all your stupid ignorant crap. You had better 
figure out I am not the same as those Druids from thousands of 
years ago. We simply follow a path of reverance and 
understanding related to astrology and nature, most closely 
related to Shaminism. It pre dates Wicca but shares many things 
with that belief system. NONE of which has ANYTHING TO DO WITH 
YOUR DEVIL. Your pathetic religious freaks drill that UNTRUE 
CRAP into your head! 
  I am sure the above Rationalist (Wiccan) will also explain the 
similar answers. So Chill! 
       And if you do you might be able to OPEN your mind and 
LEARN something! Do not blame your MUSLIM MISERY ON ME!
            Blessed Be,
                Merlyn 

From: Merlyn
To: Rationalist
Subject: Wicca
Date: Fri Mar 15 17:09:19 2002

Message:
Good to meet you, I am glad to have at least one who 
understands. Seems all these Muslims can do is think in their 
linear one way monothiestic brain washed way. Sad in that they 
miss so very much and know so very little of the rest of 
humanity. If they only knew how much of their own "religion" is 
based in pre-christian practice. 
  Any way, Blessed be, 
           and Peace
               Merlyn 

From: Merlyn
To: Franky
Subject: Bigot
Date: Fri Mar 15 17:14:45 2002

Message:
By the way, Afghanistan is a free country NOW. Thanks to the 
USA. Or haven't you heard? You are not showing any evidence that 
prooves anything. Just crap from a stupid book written by a 
person who hated everyone but Muslims, That is BIGOTRY in My 
Book! I do not believe in or preach bigotry, you do.  

From: Merlyn
To: Sister
Subject: Bitch
Date: Fri Mar 15 17:25:25 2002

Message:
Go fuck yourself you slut! How dare you insult women from the 
USA. You really SUCK! 

From: Rationalist
To: Merlyn
Subject: Hi
Date: Fri Mar 15 18:01:36 2002

Message:
Nice to meet another pagan on here.  


From: Walter
To: Merlyn
Date: Fri Mar 15 18:07:01 2002

Message:
Don't you have a human sacrifice to attend to? DEVIL 
WORSHIPPER!!!!!!!!!!  LOL!!!!!!!

From: North Carolina Gal
To: Rationalist
Subject: Wicca
Date: Fri Mar 15 18:46:11 2002

Message:
I understand the 1 tennant...If it harms none..Do what you 
will.I have read alittle bit on Wicca and from what I remember  
there was something about  The law of attraction, Harmony and 
serenity, Power through knowledge and Progressive 
reincarrnation. Are they somewhat like commandments? 

From: Merlyn
To: Walter
Subject: Altar
Date: Fri Mar 15 19:36:29 2002

Message:
Come to the altar and see, The only ones doing the sacrifice now 
are Muslims. In their mind they sacrifice themselves to their 
deamon Allah. LoL indeed! The Druids as did many early religions 
to include Christianity and Judism believed they could heal the 
soul by sacrifice. This all in times of plague and famine. 
  Seems now the pot calling the kettle black as the Muslims 
practice this very dark art. It would be pretty clear that 
anyone who would take his own life and that of others must 
indeed be a devil worshipper. And to date the only ones doing 
this are the Muslims. 

From: Merlyn
To: North Carolina Gal
Subject: Commandments
Date: Fri Mar 15 19:46:43 2002

Message:
Hi NC Gal,
  Not exactly. A creed if you will, is more accurate. Self 
discipline to follow a path of Truth and Honesty at the core. 
Father spirit & Mother goddess, respectively the system honors 
both in equality. The Goddess, womb of the creator often related 
to the mother Mary in the Christian version of creation. Christ 
the son, related to the Winter solstice and the first day of the 
solar year. Christmas is on the winter solstice. 
  Also, reincarnation is by the circles of Abred, and do include 
the three basic levels to the outer "white life" later described 
in Christianity as "heaven" The center is later translated 
as "hell  but do not include any "devil" that is strictly a 
Christian addition. Each person has the realms with in. More 
often related to Quablistic theory. The Charkas are often found 
in several systems and a key to soul development and growth. 
  These systems can be found in a relative way in almost every 
religion. Humans seem to find the same answers, just in 
different ways. A devil worshipper is by definition an anti-
Christ, and the Devil is a symbol of mans dark side. There has 
never been an actual Devil, nor is there a cloudy place with 
gates called Heaven. These are man's symbolism to describe the 
life after death as best as man can. There are no rivers of wine 
or virgins as the Koran states either. Humans have always tried 
to put their mind at rest by making up stories about things they 
cannot understand. 
  There are however, real ways to look at all of this. But it 
takes a bit of deprogramming,  as we have been exposed to 
Judaism, Christianity and other belief systems to the degree we 
accept the symbolism as fact. 
  If you follow the progression, you will see that Allah is 
offering much like Valhalla, for the fallen warrior, a hell that 
is not so bad. Evil intent for virgins that is forbidden in the 
life of the believer. How can it be justified that you can covet 
the idea of endless virgins in the afterlife, while during your 
human life you are taught that this very thing is a sin, to the 
point that the women are stoned to death if they become pregnant 
out of wedlock? "Thou shall not covet" sound familiar? Many 
contradictions exist in the Muslim version of "monotheism". 
Christianity often embraced the trinity in order to be accepted 
by the earlier religions. Father son & Holy Ghost, past present 
& future, and so on.

From: North Carolina Gal
To: Merlyn
Subject: thanks
Date: Fri Mar 15 20:43:38 2002

Message:
thanks for explaining, it sounds very interesting. I'll have to 
find some more material on wicca and read up on it. I do 
understand the deprogramming part..LOL

From: SISTER
To: MERLYN
Date: Sat Mar 16 01:13:43 2002

Message:
LIKE I HAVE STATED MANY TIMES MERLYN PLEASE DONT CALL ME A TRAMP 
YOU ARE THE PEOPLE THAT INVENTED ALL THAT SINFUL STUFF NOT US 
AND AS FOR GOING OFF AT FRANKY ALL THE TIME WHATS YOUR PROBLEM 
CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH YOUR COUNTRY IS EVIL AND YOUR COUNTRY WILL 
BE DESTROYED UNDERSTAND THIS FRANKY YOYUR COUNTRY FUCKS AROUND 
WITH TO MANY PEOPLE NO NOT ALL AMERICANS ARE BAD AND YES THERE 
ARE MUSLIMS IN AMERICA AS WELL AND ALOT I MAY ADD (ALHUMDULILLAH)
BUT AMERICA IS NOT INVINCIBLE YES IT IS A BIG COUNTRY BUT 
NOTHING IS BIGGER AND MIGHTY THAN (SUBHANN ALLAH TALEE)SO SIT 
AND CRY ON THAT YOU EVIL JINN YOUR LAND IS EVIL AND EVIL WILL BE 
DESTROYED LIKE I HAVE POSTED MANY TIMES YOU AMERICANS THINK YOU 
ARE SO TUFF BUT REALLY COME ON IF IT WASNT FOR NORTHAN ALLIANCE 
YOUR ASSES REALY WOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN KICKED AND YOU CAN 
DENIY IT AS MUCH AS YOU WANT BUT IT IS TRUE YOUR 33RD DEGREE 
MASON KNOWN AS GEORGE BUSH HIMSELF WILL BE SENT TO HELL WHERE HE 
BELONGS AND ANY OTHER DEVIL WORSHIPPERS THAT FOLLOW HIM.

From: SISTER
To: ALL AMERICANS
Date: Sat Mar 16 01:29:23 2002

Message:
>I have found a weakness in US defence that they are unable to 
remidy. The United States has not fought a war on domestic soil 
scence The Civil War and as a result they have become the 
foremost experts on Fighting over Enemy Territory. As we have 
seen in Every recent war scnce Viet Nam, America avoids (as much 
as possible) ussing ground forces to do it's fighting. Ground 
forces take the most casualties. Instead America adops 
the "Control the Skies" approach to war. Infact they believe 
that whoever controlls the skies controlls the war. In the Gulf 
war, America perfected this method and amazed the world with 
it's quick victory over Iraq. Today America prefers to use 
mostly Afgan troops on the ground while they only offer support 
from the air. The fact is, even though America has found an 
extremily affective method of controlling the outcome of a war 
(on Forien Soil) they have lost their edge as a ground force. 
Another important fact worth mentioning: AMERICA WILL NOT BE 
ABLE USE THE "CONTROLL THE SKIES" TECHNIQUE ON DOMESTIC SOIL! 
Ski domination only works in foriegn territories because it 
destroys the landscape and incurres many civillian deaths (wich 
is something America cares little about when they are fighting 
abroad). America would never use Bombers or misile strikes on 
it's own ground, and it would not so easily put "friendlies" at 
risk. Due to the fact that American millitary forces have 
trained only for the new "controll the skies" method, they have 
become poor ground troops. And they can only use ground troops 
here in America if they want to keep the country intact. I think 
we should exploit this weakness and bring the war home.
>


From: Walter
To: Merlyn
Date: Sat Mar 16 03:00:17 2002

Message:
I was being sarcastic dammit! LOL!!
 

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From: COMMANDO
To: SISTER GHETTO RAT
Date: Sat Mar 16 03:33:27 2002

Message:
WELL, WELL, WELL...  THE WALKING WASTE OF SPERM SPEWS HER 
HATRED/ENVY OF THE FREE WORLD AGAIN.  I REALLY HOPE THAT YOUR 
TERRORIST BROTHERS ATTEMPT THEIR HARAM MURDERS HERE, BECAUSE WE 
WILL DESTROY THEM IF/WHEN THEY TRY.  
  
  AS FOR YOUR STUPID STATEMENT THAT OUR TROOPS WOULD HAVE "GOTTEN 
THEIR ASSES KICKED", YOU CLEARLY DO NOT HAVE A CLUE.  AMERICAN 
SPECIAL FORCES PUT THE AL QAIDA ON THE RUN -THAT IS, THE ONES WHO 
AREN'T HIDING IN THEIR CAVES IN FEAR OF THE AMERICANS.

  I UNDERSTAND YOUR DESIRE TO DEFEND YOUR BROTHERS, BUT YOU MUST 
REALIZE THAT SOME OF THOSE BROTHERSARE BLOODTHIRSTY KILLERS, NO 
LONGER FIT TO BE CALLED HUMAN BEINGS.  ALSO, YOU CONSTANTLY TELL 
ME THAT YOU WILL "DEFEND YOUR BROTHERS OF ISLAM", BUT LET ME ASK 
YOU SOMETHING: IN A BATTLE BETWEEN THE NORTHERN ALLIANCE TROOPS 
(MUSLIM) AND THE AL QAIDA (ALSO MUSLIM), WHICH OF THESE TWO WILL 
YOU FIGHT ALONGSIDE WITH?

  AS I SAID ONCE BEFORE, YOU'RE FULL OF CRAP, YOU'VE BEEN 
BRAINWASHED, AND YOUR MELODRAMATIC RESPONSES ARE SO EXAGGERATED 
THAT I'M ABOUT TO NOMINATE YOU FOR AN ACADEMY AWARD!

  OK, YOUR TURN.  I AWAIT YOURREPLY.  GO FOR IT!!

  LOOOOOOOL!     

From: Facts Finders
To: Rationalist, Franky,Merlyn
Subject: 60 questions
Date: Sat Mar 16 04:59:25 2002

Message:
This is my 4 post regarding the following subject. Yes I did 
reply to Franky about his 60 question. I told him to look into a 
site I have given him. I have gone through all the 60 questions. 
These are question post in a muslims site. How much do they 
know. I have site regarding muslims teaching too but I did not 
want to post it here because it is going to start a long debate 
and I tell you it would take up more space than "your sponsor"

So rationanlist don't say that we are rude not to reply. I did 
ask Franky twice does he really want me to reply? No I do not 
want this sort of debate. I told Franky, he has found is 
religion (insha allah) I have found mine, Let us lead by our 
example, behaviour in bringing our religion to the non believer

Peace be with you all

From: Rami
To: All......
Subject: Who is really BrainWashed
Date: Sat Mar 16 06:32:09 2002

Message:
Let me ask you something who has hosted the biggest terrorists 
in all time (isnt it really the americans) People like Henry 
Kissinger. but do you want them convicted. no you refuse to let 
americans go to the military trial in Haaq 
So before talking about getting Bin laden. try and clear your 
own consience. i will just leave the remark that iam a christian 
Palestinian in my familys villiage both muslims and christian 
lives, Muslims dont really hate all christians.

From: Merlyn
To: Walter
Date: Sat Mar 16 08:13:22 2002

Message:
I know. But you brought up a good point I just hadnot looked at 
before. These Muslims Worship SATIN! They are performing 
Sacrifice! HUMAN SACRIFICE! The sick fuckers. But I just hadn't 
looked at it that way. Martyrs are perfoming a vary basic 
religious cleansing rite. It is basic Witchcraft in its most 
perverted form. The very things that the Koran promise are the 
things the Devil offers his followers. It all fits into the 
predictions of the old & new testamant. Creepy! The Osama is the 
flase Christ, a sick servant of Satin. This all makes me want to 
PUKE!

From: Merlyn
To: Rami/Fact finder
Subject: Keep your stupid fucking religion and shove it up your ass!
Date: Sat Mar 16 08:21:18 2002

Message:
Get the fuck out! I will not and do not want you to bring your 
Satanic Devil worshipping religion to me! You sick fucks can eat 
shit and die! I am not a non believer, I believe in my own 
philosophy and I do not push it on you! You are a fucking BIGOT!
Your religion is Hypocritical BULL SHIT!

From: Merlyn
To: Sister
Subject: stupid bitch
Date: Sat Mar 16 08:26:36 2002

Message:
We already have your stupid fucking bitch line, quit repeating 
it! Your Muslim crap is the Satin spew! Your Muslim Martyers are 
the very walking death of satin himself! You are the biggist 
BIGOT I haver ever heard of! And you wouldn't know a hollow 
point from a semi jacket, so don't try to tell me your IGNORANT 
SHIT! 
  Your Muslim brothers are evil satinic death mongers! You are a 
brainwashed IDIOT! You worship Satin! 

From: Merlyn
To: Rami
Subject: Stupid FUCK!
Date: Sat Mar 16 08:32:36 2002

Message:
You Ask:
(Let me ask you something who has hosted the biggest terrorists 
in all time (isnt it really the americans),
NO YOU STUPID FUCK! Your own Muslim ass hole religion has mass 
murdered more helpless poor people than any war in history!
            You are a stupid FUCK!
AND KEEP YOUR FILTHY FUCKING SATINIC RELIGION TO YOURSELF YOU 
SICK FUCK! 

From: Merlyn
To: Sister FUCK FACE
Subject: Eat Shit
Date: Sat Mar 16 08:35:54 2002

Message:
I hope you rot in your little HELL! YOU SICK BITCH, FUCK OFF, 
EAT SHIT AND DIE! YOU ARE A SELFISH SELF CENTERED BITCH CONTROL 
FREAK! YOU CANNOT MAKE ME BELIEVE YOUR STUPID SATANIC RELIGION 
NO MATTER HOW HARD OR LONG YOU TRY. I HOPE EVERY DAY YOU LIVE IN 
FEAR AND PAIN! YOU SUCK AND YOUR JINNS AND EVERYTHIHNG ELSE IN 
YOUR FUCKING SICK SHIT HEAD CAN SUCK CAMEL SPEWTUM! YOU ARE A 
BIGOT AND A BITCH, COMMANDO IS ABSOLUTLY RIGHT! YOU SUCK!

From: some guy
To: Merlyn
Date: Sat Mar 16 08:31:12 2002

Message:
You clarified something which had never occurred to me:  that 
such extremists as the Madrasas are committing human sacrifice!  
I want to thank you for that, but I do have to disagree w/you on 
one point: Osama isn't the antichrist, at least not according to 
the Christian tradition.  The antichrist "by peace shall decieve 
many nations" (New Testament; forgot where, sorry).

  Anyway, I'm sure you made ol' SISTER'S day!

From: om/cf
To: Sister
Subject: Flawed thinking
Date: Sat Mar 16 08:11:38 2002

Message:
And they can only use ground troops here in America if they want 
to keep the country intact. I think we should exploit this 
weakness and bring the war home................................

You have greatly underestimated the SIZE of the USA's armed 
forces. In addition to official armed forces you must include 
between 77-90 million armed civilians. Many of which would love 
nothing more than the chance to kill our enemy. And do not 
forget about the 2 million ballistic geletin practice dummys 
already in America. Such an attack on American soil would put 2 
million of your brothers/sisters in great jeopardy.
In addition, no single Islamic country has any such military 
rescources to even attempt a major attack on the U.S.A. That 
would mean a coalition of Islamic countries would have to be 
formed and work together. Fat chance of that happening. The only 
thing Islamic countries agree upon, is religion.
What rocket scientist did you get this military battle plan from?
General Custer, in a Islamic vision after days of fasting? The 
good writer failed to mention consequences of the last organized 
military attack on U.S. soil. Remember Pearl Harbor, Hawaii? 
Remember the price Japan paid for attacking America? And Japan 
was a well oiled military machine at the time, not a bunch of 
backwards Islamic fuckups who cant even light a shoe bomb fuse.
The consequences? We fucking dropped atomic bombs on Japan. 
Twice. A terrible, horrendus thing to do? Absolutly. People 
melting into shadows on sidewalks is not nice. I coulnt even 
imagine having to be the one to make that decision. But, it 
ended 2 more years of island to island war and saved more lives 
than were taken.
The point is: Do not underestimate American toughness and 
resolve. The once ,in a lifetime when one can afford it, 
pilgrimage to Mecca is a interesting concept. It would be a 
shame if that tradition had to be discontinued for 500 years. Be 
carefull what you wish for Sister.




From: Rationalist
To: Sister, Walter, Fact Finder
Subject: I'm sure you problem know
Date: Sat Mar 16 10:04:43 2002

Message:
Sister:  Good luck trying to get ground forces to invade the 
US.  First you'd have to get past the navy which is part of our 
air dominance.  Even then you have a hell of a lot of civilians 
armed with guns knives, and a decent percentage of them trained 
to fight better than you can imagine.

Walter:  Of course you know that Sacrificing humans or animals 
is against the tennant.  Even when it comes to animals, our God 
is a hunter, he knows how to kill them himself if he gets 
hungry.  We do love a good fruit or vegetable to bury on the 
side of the road on October 31st though.  Spirits love apples.  

Fact Finder:  I really don't care about offending anyone, but I 
do think it was wrong of me to call you and everyone else rude.  
So I apologize for that.

From: Merlyn
To: Some Guy
Subject: Osama
Date: Sat Mar 16 10:34:17 2002

Message:
yes by the definition you bring you are right, but in the same 
light, He is the Anti-Christ as are all these Satinic Muslims. I 
am glad my own philosiphy has NOTHING to do with this whole sick 
pile of shit. But if they do fuck with me, or my country, I as 
all of us are well armed and I am an expert marksman. 
  As for the truth about all this crap, yes I agree it hadn't 
really crossed my mind untill I heard all the Hipocrytiacl crap 
spewing from the Muslims on this site. They ABSOLUTLY DO 
PRACTICE HUMAN SACRIFICE! And the Koran promises the followers 
of that sick satanic faith a Valhalla! 
  Osama was just a looser anyway, but all of the poppy headed 
drug addicts and their Drug trade triangle for wepons are afraid 
the USA will stop their little scam. Well guess what, they are 
right. And we are going to make it a national commitment to stop 
these Satinac Drug addict fuckers from trying to ruin the lives 
of children with their fucking Heroin and Opium! 
  Count on it!
And to you, Some guy,
        Blessed be.
         Merlyn 

From: North Carolina Gal
To: Your Sponsor
Date: Sat Mar 16 10:45:31 2002

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From: PATFINDER
To: Anyone
Subject: Religion.
Date: Sat Mar 16 10:56:35 2002

Message:
If anyone believes you can live in peace with Islam.  I would 
suggest you pull your head out of your ass,

It is a religion that sends its sons and daughters off wrapped 
in TNT to kill other children.  Moslems drug the bodies of dead 
American pilots through the streets in Somalia.  Moslems 
beheaded Danny Pearl.  Moslems ran aircraft into the WTC and 
elsewhere.  Moslems behead their captives in the Phillipians.

What say you Raghead, are you really peaceful?

It is God's responsibility to forgive Bin Laden.
It is the responsibility of the Armed Forces of the United 
States to arrange the meeting.

God Bless America.

From: Facts Finder
To: Merlyn
Date: Sat Mar 16 11:30:02 2002

Message:
This is the first time I got nasty post. Anyway when I menion 
non-believer it was not meant for you. It was how we should lead 
by good example and behaviour to show what our religon taught 
us. Sorry if I have offended you. Take Care. God Bless

From: Fact Finders
To: Rationalists
Date: Sat Mar 16 11:44:03 2002

Message:
It is OK, no harm done. Anyway in this board nobody is afraid of 
nobody. A simple apology with your heart if you feel you have 
offended some people it is good and makes you feel better. Have 
a wonderful weekend. God Bless.

From: The Islam in Action Committee
To: Freedom Lovers
Subject: Force fed Islam
Date: Sat Mar 16 11:36:41 2002

Message:
Christian teacher faces
death penalty in Pakistan
Hearing today for alleged violation of notorious 'blasphemy law'

Posted: March 16, 2002
1:00 a.m. Eastern

  2002 WorldNetDaily.com 

The headmaster of a Christian school in Pakistan will be hanged 
if he is found guilty of blaspheming Muhammad. 

Parvez Masih has been accused of violating Pakistan's 
rigid "blasphemy law," which provides the death penalty for 
anyone who blasphemes against the Prophet Muhammad or the Koran. 

The teacher "turned down an offer to drop all charges if he 
denied Christ," reports The Capitol Hill Prayer Alert, a 
Washington, D.C.-based Christian prayer organization. 

As headmaster of a Christian school in a small village close to 
Lahore, four students asked Masih about Mohammed, reports the 
organization. 

"Parvez advised the four boys to consult their religious 
leaders. Later, two of the students gave false testimony to 
Pakistani authorities saying Parvez had spoken against 
Mohammed," said the report. 

Parvez's next hearing is scheduled for today. 

Pakistan's blasphemy law, instituted in 1986 (section 295-C), 
states: 


Whoever by words, either spoken, or written, or by visible 
representation, or by any imputation, innuendo, or insinuation, 
directly or indirectly, defiles the sacred name of the Holy 
Prophet (peace be upon him) shall be punished with death, or 
imprisonment, and shall also be liable to fine."

"The main effect of the blasphemy law," said law professor David 
F. Forte to the U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee, "is to 
unleash a reign of private terror against Christians and other 
religious minorities, frequently without the perpetrators being 
brought to justice." 

To this injustice the IAC released the following statement:

The Prophet Muhammad smokes camel cocks and futhermore, can kiss 
our collective asses. The Koran is a fictional book whose main 
function is to wipe our asses when we're out of toilet paper.

From:
To:
Subject: Bin Laden
Date: Sat Mar 16 14:37:36 2002

Message:
Bin Laden is a cock sucking mother fucker. he is a bitch.

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To: North Carolina Gal
Subject: Length of the Commercials
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Message:
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To: Your Sponsor
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RABID DOGS AND PIGS FIRST TO OBLIGE


ALLAH'S PETSHOP
HE SAYS:
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RABID DOGS AND PIGS FIRST TO OBLIGE


ALLAH'S PETSHOP
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ALLAH'S PETSHOP
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ALLAH'S PETSHOP
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RABID DOGS AND PIGS FIRST TO OBLIGE


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ALLAH'S PETSHOP
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RABID DOGS AND PIGS FIRST TO OBLIGE


ALLAH'S PETSHOP
HE SAYS:
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RABID DOGS AND PIGS FIRST TO OBLIGE


ALLAH'S PETSHOP
HE SAYS:
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RABID DOGS AND PIGS FIRST TO OBLIGE


ALLAH'S PETSHOP
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ALLAH'S PETSHOP
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RABID DOGS AND PIGS FIRST TO OBLIGE


ALLAH'S PETSHOP
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From: Rami
To: all the ignorant fools out ther
Subject: Why such hatred
Date: Sat Mar 16 17:02:14 2002

Message:
Iam kind of disapointed i hoped that the americans would learn 
something out od the attack on WTC (not meaning that i agree in 
violence being the way forward)I think that maybe people in 
america dont even notice what the politicians do(so you cant 
agree that Henry kissinger is a terrorist or what)and again how 
can you call islam a religion of satan when bad times come 
people do bad things.....(and again as i said before iam not 
muslim of origin iam christian but not meaning that iam a 
believer)and to pathfinder Christians used atom bombs on 
Japan,Christians used napalm in Vietnam,christians continued a 
war for the only purpose of getting to money(vietnam), 
Christians Removed the goverment in Chile and sat up the 
dictator,Christians (cross knights) road around and said to 
muslims turn christian or die (you cant blame a whole religion 
for every bad event, by that i mean that i dont blame any 
religion  this was just an example of what you can easyly write) 
i think it is only good to have an religion to believe in no 
matherif your Muslim,christian or other wise.

From: Rami
To: Merlyn
Subject: oops i forgot
Date: Sat Mar 16 17:19:53 2002

Message:
Muslims has mass murdered more people in history than any other 
war or do you mean christians either way
Could you please meantion the events you talk about

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From: Concern woman
To: Sister and all women
Date: Sat Mar 16 17:29:21 2002

Message:
Men superior to women 

"Men have authority over women because Allah has made the one 
superior to the other. "(Q. 4:34) Dawood.
 
The famous commentator Ibn Kathir commented on (Q. 4:34) saying: 
"Men are superior to women, and a man is better than a 
woman."[8] 

Razi, commenting on Q. 4:11, said: 
"(The males share is that of two females). Man is more perfect 
than the woman in creation, and intelligence, and in the 
religious sphere, such as the suitability to be a judge, and a 
leader in worship. Also, the testimony of the man is twice that 
of the woman. So that whoever is given great responsibilities 
must be given correspondingly great privileges. As the woman is 
deficient in intelligence and of great lust, if she is given 
much money, much corruption will be the result. "[9] 
He also added: "The male is mentioned first in Q. 4:11 because 
the male is better than the female."[10]
 
The intellectual and religious deficiencies of women are stated 
in the following Hadith found in Sahih al-Bukhari which is 
considered by Muslim scholars to be "The most authentic book 
after the Book of Allah (i.e.. the Qur'an)" 

"Allah's Apostle once said to a group of women :'I have not seen 
any one more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A 
cautious, sensible man could be led astray by some of you.' The 
women asked: 'O Allah's Apostle, what is deficient in our 
intelligence and religion?' He said: 'Is not the evidence of two 
women equal to the witness of one man?' They replied in the 
affirmative. He said: 'This is the deficiency of your 
intelligence'... 'Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray 
nor fast during her menses?' The women replied in the 
affirmative. He said: 'This is the deficiency in your 
religion.''[14] 

The authenticity of the above Hadith is undisputed. It is 
reported by the two most reliable collections of Hadith; Bukhari 
and Muslim. The agreement of Bukhari and Muslim on its 
authenticity makes it (mutafaqun 'alayhi) 'agreed upon', which 
is the highest degree of authenticity. The above Hadith has been 
accepted and used by eminent scholars, such as Ghazali, Ibn al-
'Arabi, Razi, Suyouti, Qortobi, Nawawi, and Ibn Kathir, in their 
writings. 
'Woman was made to bear and feed children. Therefore she is very 
emotional. And she is forgetful, because if she did not forget 
how it is to give birth she would not have another child. That 
is why she will not be as reliable a witness as a man."[20]
 
Comments 
Why are women degraded to such low level in Islam, they are 
treated as objects and there is no such thing as Equality of 
both male and female, why should a woman get one half of what 
the man gets in inheritance, isn't this unjust, say that there 
is a father who has two children one daughter and one son, why 
should they not get 50 percent each instead of 50% for the son 
and 25% for the daughter. 

The bible which is from Allah states very clearly that a woman 
has equal rights according to a man and does not allow the 
beating of a wife or to be treated as of inferior intelligence. 
 
Wife Beating 
The man according to the Qur'an has the responsibility to 
admonish his wife, and the right to desert her sexually, and to 
beat her to correct any rebelliousness in her behaviour. 

The Qur'an states: 
"Righteous women are therefore obedient, ... And those you fear 
may be rebellious (nushuz) admonish; banish them to their 
couches, and beat them."[55] 

The occasion in which Q. 4:34 was revealed sheds more light on 
the meaning of that verse. Most commentators mention that "the 
above verse was revealed in connection with a woman who 
complained to Mohammad that her husband slapped her on the face 
(which was still marked by the slap).
 
At first the Prophet said to her: 'Get even with him', but then 
added: 
'Wait until I think about it.' Later on the above verse was 
revealed, after which the Prophet said: 'We wanted one thing but 
Allah wanted another, and what Allah wanted is best.'"[57] 

Ibn Kathir in his commentary mentioned a Hadith on the authority 
of zal Ash'ath Ibn al-Qays who was visiting 'Omar and at that 
time. 'Omar took his wife and beat her, then said to Ash'ath: 
'Memorise three things from me, which I memorised from the 
prophet who said: "The man is not to be asked why he beat his 
wife ..."'[62] Qur'an Sura 4:34 

As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-
conduct, admonish them (first), (next), refuse to share their 
beds, (and last) beat them; but if they return to obedience, 
seek not against them means (of annoyance): for Allah is Most 
High, Great (above you all).
 
Comments 
Is this not a clear statement to beat your wife if she disobeys, 
can't you win her with love instead of beating her. 
 
Divorce by uttering three times 

Divorce is Islam is made very easy. By uttering the phrase you 
are divorced, the divorce takes place, in part 7 page 145 of 
Ahadith Al-Bukhari we read "A man can suddenly tell his wife I 
am not in need of you" then the verdict can be given according 
to his intention. The Qur'an Sura 2:236 states, it is no sin for 
you if you divorce women. 

So if a man likes another woman and already has four wives then 
he can divorce one of them to obtain this woman that he likes by 
uttering the word "I divorce you three times" without any 
justification, the woman does not need to be at fault for this 
to happen. 

The power to divorce usually resides in the hand of the man. 
Bukhari reported a Hadith that shows how easy the lawful act can 
be. 
A "man may say to his brother (in Islam), 'Have a look at either 
of my wives (and if you wish), I will divorce her for you.'"[91] 
it can even happen against the will, and the love of the husband 
and the wife concerned. 
"The son of 'Omar reported: I had a wife under me whom I loved 
but whom 'Omar disliked. He told me: 'Divorce her'. But I 
refused. Then 'Omar came to the Messenger of Allah and notified 
it to him. The messenger of Allah told me: 'Divorce her'."[92] 
(Quoted by Tirmizi and Abu Daud) 

Comments 
This means that God in Islam does not promote family harmony and 
does not care about the family life, this is at least what 
appears to be the case. 
 
Muta Marriages in Islam???? 
Shih Al-Bukhari states: part 7 page 37 
While we were in the army, Allah's Apostle came to us and said, 
you have been allowed to have pleasure (Muta) so do it. If a man 
and a woman agree to marry temporarily, their marriage should 
last for three nights, and if they want to continue, they may do 
so. There is also a very famous story related to us by Ibn 
Mas'ud and recorded in all the Islamic sources.
 
We used to participate in holy battles led by Allah's Apostle 
and we had no wives with us. At that time, he allowed us to 
marry women with a temporary contract and recited to us this 
verse from the Quran: 5:87 Oh you who believe, make not unlawful 
the good things which Allah (God) has made lawful for you.
 
After the death of Muhammad, Allah's Apostle, Ibn ' Abbas made 
it lawful when there was a need of it, He used to say that the 
Apostle prohibited it when it was dispensable, but it became 
lawful when it became necessary. 

Comments 
Isn't this violating women's bodies for sexual lust. What about 
after affects of this, what if the woman becomes pregnant then 
what about the child, who is the child's legal father, does the 
man just give the woman a gift and walk away.
 
This is still practiced by Shi'ites and some Sunnis around the 
world although Sunnis won't admit to this and they will tell you 
that only Shi'ites practice it. 
 
Woman reduced to the level of a donkey and a dog!
 
Mohammad said that if a man is praying and a donkey or a dog or 
a woman passes in front of him his prayer will not be acceptable 
and he has to perform ablution again and repeat his prayer. 
Book Al-Muhalla the sweetened part 4 page 8 Ibn Hazm confirms 
and quotes above 

A prayer is rescinded by a dog, weather it is passing by or not, 
and by a woman and a donkey.
 
Aisha complained about this to the caliphs of the time that you 
have put us on the same level as a donkey and a dog. 
Caliphs of Muhammad's Apostle time Ali Ibn Talib, Abdalla Ibn 
Abbas, Abu Zarr, Abu Hurayra, Anas Ibn Malik and others on whose 
authority most of Muhammad's Ahadith and interpretations of the 
Qur'an were handed down.
 
Comments 
Is this not degrading to women, treating them as if they were 
animals and not humans, then Muslims still claim that women have 
equal rights in Islam and are held very high in esteem, their 
rights are as equal to as a dog or a donkey. 
 
The Prophet Muhammad marries Aisha at age 6 
Al Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 18: 
Narrated 'Ursa: 
The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for 'Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu 
Bakr said "But I am your brother." The Prophet said, "You are my 
brother in Allah's religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is 
lawful for me to marry." 

Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64: 
Narrated 'Aisha: 
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he 
consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then 
she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death)
. 
Comments 
Is it moral that Muhammad the prophet of God is marrying a six 
year old, and if it is moral then what sort of message is he 
passing to his believers that they can marry very young girls. 
 

Prophet Muhammad marries his adopted son's wife after zayd 
divorces her 
volume 7, Book 62, Number 97: 
Narrated Anas: 
The Prophet did not give a better wedding banquet on the 
occasion of marrying any of his wives than the one he gave on 
marrying Zainab, and that banquet was with (consisted of) one 
sheep. 

Qur'an Sura 33:37 
Behold! Thou didst say to one who had received the grace of 
Allah and thy favour: "Retain thou (in wedlock) thy wife, and 
fear Allah." But thou didst hide in thy heart that which Allah 
was about to make manifest: thou didst fear the people, but it 
is more fitting that thou shouldst fear Allah. Then when Zayd 
had dissolved (his marriage) with her, with the necessary 
(formality), we joined her in marriage to thee: in order that 
(in future) there may be no difficulty to the believers in (the 
matter of) marriage with the wives of their adopted sons, when 
the latter have dissolved with the necessary (formality) (their 
marriage) with them. And Allah's command must be fulfilled. 

Comments 
Why did prophet Muhammad Apostle of God had to marry his adopted 
son's wife after he divorced her, what is he trying to prove 
that you can take adopted sons and marry their wives if they 
divorce them or maybe that you should not adopt sons at all! 
 

Muhammad prophet's double standards 
Volume 7, Book 62, Number 157: 
Narrated Al-Miswar bin Makhrama: 
I heard Allah's Apostle who was on the pulpit, saying, "Banu 
Hisham bin Al-Mughira have requested me to allow them to marry 
their daughter to Ali bin Abu Talib, but I don't give 
permission, and will not give permission unless 'Ali bin Abi 
Talib divorces my daughter in order to marry their daughter, 
because Fatima is a part of my body, and I hate what she hates 
to see, and what hurts her, hurts me." 

Comments 
Isn't this double standard by the Prophet of Allah that he may 
marry freely any one and he had 14 wives but at any one time he 
had nine wives also any Muslim may marry up to four women 
simultaneously that he likes and divorce to marry another with 
out thought to the woman's well being but when it came to 
Muhammad's Apostle's own daughter then he asked her to be 
divorced first before Ali bin Abu Talib marries another. 
This is clearly a sign of I can do what I like because I am a 
prophet but you must do as I tell you to do, not a sign of a 
prophet at all. 
 

Suckling of women's breasts 
Sahih Muslim Ahadith Book 8, Number 3421: 
Narrated Aisha: 
It had been revealed in the Qur'an that ten clear sucklings make 
the marriage unlawful, then it was abrogated (and substituted) 
by five sucklings and Allah's Apostle (peace_be_upon_him) died 
and it was before that time (found) in the Qur'an (and recited 
by the Muslims). 
Book 8, Number 3427: 
Umm Salamah said to Aisha: A young boy who is at the threshold 
of puberty comes to you. I, however, do not like that he should 
come to me, whereupon Aisha said: Don't you see in Allah's 
Messenger (peace_be_upon_him) a model for you? 

She also said: The wife of Abu Hudhayfah said: Messenger of 
Allah, Salim comes to me and now he is a (grown-up) person, and 
there is something that rankles in the mind of Abu Hudhayfah 
about him, whereupon Allah's Messenger (peace_be_upon_him) said: 
Suckle him (so that he may become your foster-child), and thus 
he may be able to come to you (freely). 

Comments 
How can a woman ask a grown up person to suckle her breasts to 
become his foster mother, this is open invitation and what if 
the man gets carried away, who would allow his wife, daughter or 
sister to do this, I don't know about Arabs but it would bring 
disgrace in eastern culture if practiced. 
 
Marriage to step daughter 
In Qur'an Sura 4:23 
It Is mentioned quite clearly that you can get married with your 
step daughter if you haven't consummated the marriage with your 
wife i.e. the step daughter's real mother.
 
Comments 
How can you marry your wife's daughter even if you haven't 
consummated the marriage, she is still you step daughter! 

From: Concerned Woman
To: All
Date: Sat Mar 16 17:29:21 2002

Message:
Muhammad s Marriages 

We would now like to study Muhammad's wives and the major 
incidents that happened in the house of the Prophet, depending 
on the sources recognised by the majority of Muslims. In spite 
of the fact that the sources provide us with contradictory 
information about the number of Muhammad's wives, we can still 
say that they were thirteen women, plus Mariam the Copt. 
Muhammad married these women and lived with them for a certain 
period of time.  Apart from these, there were twelve or thirteen 
women that Muhammad married, but with whom he did not spend a 
long period of time.  There are still other women that he 
married, but with whom he never consummated his marriage, plus 
the one who bestowed herself upon him. 

Muhammad (pbuh) married Aisha when she was 6yrs old, he is 49yrs 
old and consummated the marriage when she was 9yrs old, Muhammad 
is then 52yrs old. 

Muhammad (pbuh) had several slaves, one of them called Mariam he 
had a relationship with and a son called Ibrahim and later he 
married her. 

Muhammad (pbuh) married his adopted son s wife Zainab after Zayd 
divorced her knowing that Muhammad was interested in her. 

Muhammad (pbuh) married all together 14 wives but had 9 wives at 
any one time. 

Muhammad (pbuh) used to boast to his disciples that he can have 
sex with all 9 wives in one night. 

Muhammad (pbuh) had Abu Afak assassinated by someone else, Afak 
is 120yrs old Jewish man. 

Bukhari vol. 7, #64: "Narrated Aisha that the prophet wrote the 
marriage contract with her when she was six years old and he 
consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then 
she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death)." 

Bukhari vol. 7, #65: "Narrated Aisha that the prophet wrote the 
marriage contract with her when she was six years old and he 
consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham 
said: "I have been informed that Aisha remained with the prophet 
for nine years (i.e. till his death)."" 

Can peace be upon such a man whose morals are so low that he 
lusts after women, he marries such a young girl of 6yrs of age 
and even marries his ex- daughter in law Zainab who was his 
adopted son Zayd's wife so what is she now to him, mother. 

Muhammad's Wives in the Order in Which They Were Married to Him 

Khadija Bint Khuwailid: Muhammad's first wife. He married her in 
595 A.D. (25 years before the Migration);  she died three years 
before the Migration and ten years after he claimed prophethood. 

Sawda Bint Zam`a: Muhammad married her in the month of Ramadan 
ten years after he claimed prophethood, after the death of 
Khadija and before he married Aisha or some months before the 
Migration, depending on the sources. Opinions agree that she was 
Muhammad's second wife. 

Aisha Bint Abu Bakr: Muhammad married her in the month of 
Shawwal, three years before the Migration, ten years after he 
claimed prophethood, according to the tradition of `Aisha 
herself.   She was the only virgin among Muhammad's wives. 

Hafsa Bint `Umar: The Messenger of God married her in the month 
of Sha`ban, 31 months after the Migration, or in the third year 
after the Migration, or one month or two before Uhud. 

Zainab Bint Khuzaima: Her husband died in the battle of Uhud, so 
Muhammad married her.   This was 31 months after the Migration. 

Ummu Salama: One tradition says that Muhammad married her three 
years before the Khandaq raid, in the sixth year after the 
Migration and the wedding was performed in Shawwal four years 
after the Migration, or three years after Badr. 

Zainab Bint Jahsh: It is not possible to determine when Muhammad 
married her. It was either in Dsu al-Qa`da or Sha`ban in year 5 
or 3 A.H. 

Juwairiyya Bint al-Harith: She was taken captive during the raid 
of Banu al-Mustaliq and was part of the spoils.  No one knows 
when this battle took place exactly. So the dates given for her 
marriage to Muhammad are the fifth or the sixth year after the 
Migration.  Ibn Hisham claims that Muhammad bought her from 
Thabit Ibn Qais, set her free, and later married her. 

Safiyya Bint Huyay: She was among the spoils of Khaibar (one of 
the famous Jewish tribes), which was conquered in the sixth year 
A.H., and was chosen for Muhammad. 

Ummu Habiba: Stories say that the Negus of Ethiopia gave her to 
Muhammad as a wife. 

Mariam, the Copt: al-Muqawqas, king of Egypt, sent four female 
slaves to Muhammad and Mariam was one of them.  She reached 
Medina in the seventh year after the Migration.  Only Khadija 
and Mariam gave birth to male children among all of Muhammad's 
wives. 

Maimuna Bint al-Harith: Muhammad married her in the seventh year 
after the Umra of al-Qadha.  She was the last one the Messenger 
of God married. 

Rayhana: She was not of the "mothers of the believers," in spite 
of her respectable position in the house of Muhammad.  When the 
Prophet attacked Banu Qurayza, he took her captive since it was 
necessary for him to have a selection of each spoil.  Muhammad 
offered her Islam but she refused. Yet it is said that she 
espoused Islam later. 

Abu Huraira narrated: While the Messenger of God was 
consummating the marriage with Safiyya, Abu Ayyub spent the 
night at the door of the Prophet. When the Messenger of God woke 
up and he said, "Allahu akbar," there was a sword with Abu 
Ayyub. Abu Ayyub said, "O Messenger of God, she was a newly 
married woman, and you killed her father, brother, and husband, 
so I did not feel secure about you with her." The Messenger of 
God laughed and said, "It all went well." 

So here is a prophet of God who marries a woman whose husband, 
father and brother he has killed in battle so decide for 
yourself. 

A quick review of Aisha's life, during and following Muhammad's 
death, shows that she exhibited some psychological problems: 

1) She was extremely jealous of Muhammad's other wives 

2) She conspired with other wives to lie to and deceive Muhammad 

3) She was jealous of Muhammad being the prophet 

4) She was a ringleader in the first Muslim civil war... the 
first time Muslims took arms up against other Muslims. 

One can only feel sorry for Aisha. Robbed of her childhood, 
becoming a bride to a man who had a large sexual appetite for 
many women. Aisha felt she had to lie and deceive Muhammad to 
keep his attention. She ends up after her marriage to him, left 
all alone, forbidden to re-marry. In the end she helps lead the 
first Muslim civil war, causing the death of thousands of 
Muslims. Finally defeated, she is not executed but ordered to 
live the rest of her days, basically under house arrest, in 
Medina. 

Ask yourself this, would you marry your daughter who is 6yrs old 
be it even 9yrs of age to some body who claims to be a prophet.  
These marriages prove that the prophets lusts for women and 
don't prove anything else what the fundamentalist would like you 
to believe.  Do you seriously think that these days polygamy 
would work, it is hard enough to keep one wife happy let alone 
four. 

What about the children from these marriages, how do you give 
rights to each one, it is a total nonsense to say that you can 
treat each wife or even each child equally because the fact of 
the matter is that you can't, women will be jealous of each 
other as we know of the case of Aisha was jealous so does this 
not home in a message of non polygamy but monogamy. 

In certain circumstances if you wife died and you were left 
alone then yes it does make sense to marry again but not 
recurrently while you are married, how can you give equal love 
to all your wives, it cannot be done.
  

One of Jesus disciple's asked him how will we know of false 
prophets 

Jesus said, "You shall know them by their fruits", Matthew 7:20.

We see that one of Muhammad's fruits was allowing young girls to 
be subjected to a brutal custom. 

  

From: open mind/closed fist
To: Concerned Woman
Subject: Outstanding work!!!!!
Date: Sat Mar 16 19:17:55 2002

Message:
And now Muhammad's running the Islamic whorehouse they call 
heaven!!! What a bunch of saps.

From: Rami
To: concerned woman
Date: Sat Mar 16 19:52:56 2002

Message:
I can C why you dont like the standing in islam on the womens 
area but most women are not that displeased with it(i mean 
islamic women) not every muslim follows the koran excactly just 
like very few christians do it are you really concerned about 
the women side of the issue or are you just trying to prove how 
ever evil Islam is (wich it isnt) ?

From: Merlyn
To: Rami
Date: Sat Mar 16 20:06:52 2002

Message:
You wrote;
(Iam kind of disapointed i hoped that the americans would learn 
something out od the attack on WTC) Yes you stupid FUCK! We 
learned something all right! WE LEARNED TO HATE MUSLIME FUCK 
BALLS LIKE YOU! Yes you STUPID FUCK! WE DID LEARN ALL ABOUT YOUR 
FUCK HEAD RELIGION AND ALL ABOUT HOW SICK AND PERVERTED YOU ARE!
  (but most women are not that displeased with it(i mean 
islamic women)LIKE SHIT! NO FUCKING WONDER, THEY GET THEIR ASS 
BEAT IF THEY EVEN SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT!
         You are a fucking SATAN worshipper and a Bigot! 
                   Stupid Fuck!
Take your stupid book of satanic shit and shove it up your ass 
where it will do some good! You are not bringing your fuck head 
religion to me, ever! Tough Shit, Too Fucking bad, DEAL WITH IT!
And if your stupid fuck Muslim shit heads fuck with us we'll let 
the Hindus loose on ya! Then the Jews! Everyone hates YOU! It's 
a CLUE ASS HOLE!
  And learn to type and spell, and use the little "shift" key!

From: Rami
To: Merlyn
Subject: Fuck you
Date: Sat Mar 16 20:53:12 2002

Message:
First of iam not a Muslim you ignorant mother fucker
You talk about fucking satan all the time take it easy i didnt 
offend you in any way before but you are just the biggest shit 
head. so what if i dont spell good idont live in your fucking 
Country fag people like you make the world even more shitty
Dum bastards maybe the A-bomb should have dropped U.S.A instead 
of Japan

From: om/cf
To: Rammi
Date: Sat Mar 16 20:44:07 2002

Message:
you just trying to prove how ever evil Islam is (wich it isnt)?

So you think its perfecly acceptable behavior for a grown man, a 
supposed Prophet no less, to marry a child of 6 years and 
waiting, being a Prophet and all, till the child is 9 years old 
and having sex with the child?

If you believe this is acceptable, YOU ARE A SICK IN THE HEAD 
MOTHERFUCKER!!!!!! WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU? A CATHOLIC PREIST???

From: COMMANDO
To: SISTER
Date: Sat Mar 16 21:54:33 2002

Message:
YOU SAY YOU WANT TO "BRING THE WAR HOME".  IN THAT CASE, 
CONSIDER ME YOUR MORTAL ENEMY.  WHY DON'T YOU BRING YOUR COWARDLY 
WAR HOME TO ME?  SHOULD I TELL YOU THAT I LIVE IN A TALL BUILDING 
SO THAT YOU CAN FLY AN AIRPLANE INTO IT?  OF COURSE, AFTER YOU 
HIT THE BUILDING AND WERE DEAD PHYSICALLY, YOUR SOUL WOULD 
REALISE THAT I TRICKED YOU, AND THAT I LIVED SOMEWHERE ELSE.  OH, 
WELL...  LIFE'S A BITCH, AND SO'S YOUR BREAT

From: John
To: Weenie Walter
Date: Wed Nov 21 00:11:31 2001

Message:
Walter Wennie must run by now......
You should be scar too....
The FBI LOVES people like you and 
they now how to find you .
Be scared Walter be very very frightened.
The more reports the get , the faster thel'll 
act.............
They're very busy down there.
But they'll act faster with enough reports.The only American 
women you see are the ones on porn sites that 
you frequently visit.  You probably haven't showered in weeks 
(or months).  You have no concept of deodorant or toothpaste.  
Face it, no American women and I mean NO AMERICAN WOMEN would be 
caught dead with your stinky ass.

From: John
To: Weenie Walter
Date: Wed Nov 21 00:11:31 2001

Message:
Walter Wennie must run by now......
You should be scare too....
The FBI LOVES people like you and 
they now how to find you .
Be scared Walter be very very frightened.
The more reports the get , the faster thel'll 
act.............
They're very busy down there.
But they'll act faster with enough reports.The only American 
women you see are the ones on porn sites that Oh, they'll act on 
this.  You gotta go.  American, Arabian, or 
whatever you are.  You need a taste of a good American Prison 
with boyfriend at no extra charge.

you frequently visit.  You probably haven't showered in weeks 
(or months).  You have no concept of deodorant or toothpaste.  
Face it, no American women and I mean NO AMERICAN WOMEN would be 
caught dead with your stinky ass.

From: Abigail Adams
To: Weenie Walter
Date: Wed Nov 21 00:11:31 2001

Message:
Walter Wennie must run by now......
You should be scare too....
The FBI LOVES people like you and 
they now how to find you .
Be scared Walter be very very frightened.
The more reports the get , the faster thel'll 
act.............
They're very busy down there.
But they'll act faster with enough reports.The only American 
women you see are the ones on porn sites that Oh, they'll act on 
this.  You gotta go.  American, Arabian, or 
whatever you are.  You need a taste of a good American Prison 
with boyfriend at no extra charge.

you frequently visit.  You probably haven't showered in weeks 
(or months).  You have no concept of deodorant or toothpaste.  
Face it, no American women and I mean NO AMERICAN WOMEN would be 
caught dead with your stinky ass.

From: Abigail Adams
To: Weenie Walter
Date: Wed Nov 21 00:11:31 2001

Message:
Walter Wennie must run by now......
You should be scare too....
The FBI LOVES people like you and 
they now how to find you .
Be scared Walter be very very frightened.
The more reports the get , the faster thel'll 
act.............
They're very busy down there.
But they'll act faster with enough reports.The only American 
women you see are the ones on porn sites that Oh, they'll act on 
this.  You gotta go.  American, Arabian, or 
whatever you are.  You need a taste of a good American Prison 
with boyfriend at no extra charge.

you frequently visit.  You probably haven't showered in weeks 
(or months).  You have no concept of deodorant or toothpaste.  
Face it, no American women and I mean NO AMERICAN WOMEN would be 
caught dead with your stinky ass.

From: SISTER
To: SOME GUY,MERLYN,AND COMMANDO
Date: Sun Mar 17 02:24:30 2002

Message:
WELL FIRST TO  SOME GUY AS FOR SAYING MERLYN THE WANKER MADE MY 
DAY LOOOOOOOL HE COULDNT ACOMPLISH PISSING IN THE TOILET WITHOUT 
HELP SO REALLY WHAT HE SAID WAS NOTHING NEW TO ME MERLYN YOU ARE 
THE EVIL PIEACE OF TRASH THANK YOU AND WHAT YOU SAY FOOL I COULD 
REALLY CARE LESS.AS FOR MY DEAR ENENMY COMMANDO AS FOR SAYING 
WHO WOULD I FIGHT ALONGSIDE WITH WELL YES NORTHERN ALLIANCE ARE 
MUSLIM BUT AS FAR AS IM CONCERNED THEY ARE NOT TRUE MUSLIMS THEY 
DONE NOTHING BUT SOLD ISLAM OUT THE WAY I SEE IT MUSLIM SHOULD 
NEVER FIGHT AGAINST MUSLIM NO MATTER WHAT AND SURE AS HELL NOT 
KILL THEM AND LET THE ENEMY TAKE THEM AS FOR ALL MY OTHER TRUE 
MUSLIM BROTHERS IT WOULD BE AN HONOUR TO STAND BESIDE THEM AND 
FIGHT IF IT CAME TO THAT COMMANDO WHEN WE AS MUSLIMS FIGHT ITS 
TO PRTECT OUR LANDS AND OUR PEOPLE FROM SAVAGES LIKE YOU AMERICA 
WILL NEVER HAVE OUR LANDS NEITHER WILL THOSE JEWISH DOGS SO 
BRING YOUR TANKS AND YOUR GUNS LIKE YOU HAVE BEEN FOR YEARS IT 
DOES NOT BOTHER US WE END UP AMBUSHING YOUR SORRY ASSES IN THE 
END AND TAKING THEM OFF YOU ANYWAY LOL AND AS FOR YOUR NAVY 
SCREW YOUR NAVY BUNCH OF HOMOSEXUALS NOTHING ELSE LOL YOU AND 
YOUR ARMYS AND NAVY BASICALLY ALL YOUR BULLSHIT IS JUST THAT 
BULLSHIT AND AS FOR BLOWING YOUR BUILDING UP COMMANDO I REALLY 
DOUBT THESE ANT REASON IN DOING THAT YOU AMERICANS ARE PRETTY 
GOOD AT BLOWING YOUR OWN SELVES UP LOL WOULDNT YOU SAY COMMANDO 
WELL TO ALL MY MUSLIM BROTHERS AND SISTERS STAY STRONG AND 
CONTINUE TO RISE AND DEFEND THE UMMAH OH AND BY THE WAY TWO MORE 
WOMEN THAT I KNOW HAVE EMBRACED ISLAM (ALHUMDULILLAH)JUST 
THOUGHT I WOULD SHARE THIS WONDERFUL NEWS WITH YOU ALL TAKE CARE 
BROTHERS AND SISTERS MAY (SUBHAN ALLAH TALEE)BLESS US ALL


                         (ALLAH U AKBAR)

From:
To:
Date: Sun Mar 17 02:52:48 2002

Message:
screw your F.B.I

From: COMMANDO
To: SISTA
Date: Sun Mar 17 03:43:33 2002

Message:
GOD BLESS ISRAEL!  HEY SIS, DID YOU USED TO CALL YOURSELF DADDY 
ON THESE BOARDS?  I THOUGHT YOU WERE OPPOSED TO THE USEOF 
VULGARITIES.  

  MY, HOW YOU'VE CHANGED!

  SEEING AS HOW YOU'RE NO MORE MUSLIM THAN A CAT IS ABLADE OF 
GRASS, I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT YOUR PRETENDING TO BE AALIM DOES 
YOU NO GOOD.  FOR ALL YOUR ALLEGED KNOWELEDGE OF THE Q'URAN, YOU 
CERTAINLY LACK GOOD SPIRIT, WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE ALWAYS CLAIMING 
YOU HAVE.  THAT SAID, IT IS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR THAT YOU ARE AN 
INFIDEL TO THE RELIGION WHICH YOU DISHONESTLY SAY IS YOURS.

  SHABAT SHALOM. 

From: EagleEye
To: SISTA from a dog named MISTA
Subject: LoLOLOLOLOLOLOLO - You fucking Fool!
Date: Sun Mar 17 05:05:34 2002

Message:
"America would never use Bombers or misile strikes on 
it's own ground, and it would not so easily put "friendlies" at 
risk. Due to the fact that American millitary forces have 
trained only for the new "controll the skies" method, they have 
become poor ground troops. And they can only use ground troops 
here in America if they want to keep the country intact. I think 
we should exploit this weakness and bring the war home."

Please please please bring your band o Camel riding cluster 
fuckwads over here.  Our children need fucking target practice.  
Shit out here in CALi - we could just let the Cryps and Bloods 
loose on your dumb fuck camel dick in the ear army, and they'd 
waste you in a bout 1/2 hr.  Or  we could just ask Sharon to 
send a few zillion of his boys over here - theyd love the 
opprotunity to make Dradels out of your dead Palastinian 
brothers bones.

From: Rami
To: om/cf
Subject: Its just religion
Date: Sun Mar 17 06:53:46 2002

Message:
You know its good for all people to have something to belief in
(but i personally dont believe any of it) do you think that 
every Muslim has sex with small children the only they do that 
stil is in africa (dont remember where in africa) either way 
this isnt islam. I wonder many years ago you got tought in 
school if you go to israel/Palestine dont come near the arabs 
they rape you Do they still teach you this in school. because 
this is totally wrong this is some evil propaganda from the 
zeonists. an arab (neither muslim or christian) would ever rape 
a tourist(or any other for that sake) How can you even think 
that they would sleep with a 6 year old. but i know that some 
jewish that would. Let me tell you a story of a Danish girl that 
was going home to her kebuts from the city (this was in Zinay) 
when she got picked up by an' army truck full of israely 
soldiers this was considered the safest ride (or so you would 
think) but she got Mass raped by those jewish fuckers. I ask you 
not to hate someone because of their religion (iam afraid i cant 
hold this fully myself i wont hide that i hate alot of jewish 
people but they tread me like shit and also all of my family)
i have actually met some Good jews but not alot far from enough 
And the reference to a christian priest that was actually funny

From: om/cf
To: Rami
Date: Sun Mar 17 08:05:57 2002

Message:
My point in the above post was not whether current Muslims 
are ,getting married to/having sex with, children. My point is 
even worse than that. The Prophet they hold in such reguard, 
lived a lifestyle completly at odds with what thier religion 
purports to teach and they see nothing wrong with that. How 
could any sane person believe what was said by such a lowlife?

In contrast, I've never heard a bad word said about the way 
Jesus lived his life. Which Prophet talked the talk AND walked 
the walk? I am not a very religious person, as you can tell I'm 
sure! I have my beliefs, which I prefer to keep to myself 
because of the conflicts caused by religious dicussion. But when 
I see something that makes no sense I cant help commenting.

A Christian Palistinion huh? In Isreal or Lebanon?

From: Rami
To: Om/cf
Subject: not my point
Date: Sun Mar 17 08:48:55 2002

Message:
is it really what religion you pray to or is it how you live you 
life. I never read the koran idont know if what you say is 
bullshit but i will not doubt it right now. Islam is a good 
religion just as good as any other you cant say this is bad but 
this is good when its based on the same just like catholics and 
protestants

Yes iam a christian Palestinian i live in denmark but originally 
from Israel.
10% of all palestinians are christian's

From:
To:
Date: Sun Mar 17 09:47:55 2002

Message:
http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/03/16/ret.us.iraq/index.html

From: om/cf
To: Rami
Date: Sun Mar 17 10:49:09 2002

Message:
I did not know that many Palestinions were Christian. I would 
imagine most who are Christian live in places other than the 
middle east?

My stance is any peacefull religion is a great thing on a 
personel level. But, organized religion becomes a bureauracy, 
with political goals, a propoganda machine that holds itself as 
a threat over the heads of its own followers. To use religion as 
the basis of running a country is just plain stupid. Freedom of 
religion should be a worldwide principle, but in Islamic 
countries it is not. I wonder why this is? Because Islam is used 
as a tool to control the people? I cannot think of one majority 
Christian country that does not allow the practice of Islam. Yet 
in many Islamic nations just having a bible in one's pocession 
results in severe penalties. In countries such as Saudi Arabia 
these are a citizens options:

1) Follow Islam or convert to Islam.
2) Be killed or bullied and brutalized.
3) See option 1 & 2


From: Rami
To: om/cf
Date: Sun Mar 17 11:37:24 2002

Message:
The Jewish religion seems to do the same in israel bullieng 
every arab they can but no one seems to care (the only reason 
why they havent yet killed all palestinians is because they cant 
get away with it) If you stand up against the goverment you go 
to prison where you get tortured. i know people who used to be 
not rich but fairly wealthy arabs who one day got a letter from 
the goverment that says you dont own your own land your Family's 
land. 
You know my Fathers grand mother/father got drove out of their 
big house. my family now lives in a little village just out of 
nazareth)

And also the reason for so many Palestinins being christian's is 
that the cross knights rode round saying convert to christianity 
or die(just drawing a little paralel here) I would just like to 
put a finger at that. this is many years ago just like it is 
many years ago that the koran was written.

From: allatti2d
To: concerned woman & everyone
Date: Sun Mar 17 11:07:05 2002

Message:
Thank you for posting that long post(s) about women, CW.  I love 
reading quoted facts not taken out of context (as so many 
religions are fond of doing to justify their actions).  I 
wonder, where did you get these facts?  Are they from a book or 
website, or are they your own knowledge?  I hope you can tell me 
what your sources are so I can learn more about this.  Thank you 
again, and I am interested in all the intelligent responses.  
It's amazing that people can belong to a religion and they don't 
know wtf the original doctrines are all about ... and there are 
a lot of religions with that problem, too.  SISTER, are you 
going to respond to these accusations against your prophet, that 
are not disputed even within Islam?

Rami, I don't remember seeing you before -- I can't come here 
much any more, unfortunately -- but please pay attention to 
om/cf's post.  How is it that a prophet regarded so highly in 
the Muslim religion, whom everyone holds so dear and wants to 
emulate, can get away with child molestation?  Doesn't that set 
an example for all of Islam, to do the same thing?  Does Islam 
believe that Muhammed is closest to perfection than any man?

OM/CF, you made me giggle out loud several times!  I think 
you've been hanging out with EagleEye too long... :)

I also appreciated Franky's 60 questions posed, that obviously 
came from somewhere else, and it leads to good discussions (even 
though no one will ever agree on the answers).  I had a GREAT 
time reading this week's page, I'll tell you!  This board is 
getting better in some ways, with all the different personal 
topics being discussed.

Merlyn & Rationalist... thanks for 'confessing' about your 
beliefs! :)  I'd like to point out that one of you (I think) 
spoke of monotheism and its complications & problems ... the 
verbal lashing you gave to monotheistic religions applies to 
Christianity (and all its variances) and Judaism and most other 
religions as well as Islam.  The trinity is just a suborder of 
monotheism.  Just adding that.

Nice to see y'all talking more... I'll be back to add more 
thoughts when I am able.

From: om/cf
To: Rami
Date: Sun Mar 17 12:37:19 2002

Message:
I appreciate getting your perspective on the Isreal/Palestine 
issue. Getting the views of a person who has lived there and has 
relatives there is one of the great things about the internet. 
No biased news agencys with thier own agenda's involved. Of 
course everyone is somewhat programmed by the enviroment they 
have been raised in and the percieved truth varies. That may 
never change but at least now all have a chance to get both 
sides on many world issues.

Now dont let what I just said go to your head and send you off 
on a Jew bashing tirade!

From: North Carolina Gal
To:
Subject: religion
Date: Sun Mar 17 12:30:24 2002

Message:
Atrocities have been committed through out history in the name 
of religion and God... Maybe it's just me, but I was never 
taught that God wanted us to kill anyone! On the contrary I was 
taught Thou shall not kill.. period!  Not under any 
circumstance. Now if you want to talk about religion. Any 
organized religion is all about control..  Whether it be people, 
land, money or whatever, It's all a control issue.

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From: allatti2d
To: Rami (?)
Subject: Religion
Date: Sun Mar 17 13:09:21 2002

Message:
Rami, I think it was you who said somewhere up there that we 
should lead by example in religion.  If it wasn't you who said 
this, I apologize (there are so many messages to weed 
through!!).  I agree with that -- as long as in practicing your 
religion you are not hurting other people or encroaching upon 
innocents.  I'm afraid many religions hurt others in the name of 
their God or their Religion.  There are also many variances 
within religions... a classic example would be the Christian 
religion, where there are Protestants, Catholics, Lutherans, 
Methodists, and on and on and on ad nauseum, and of course new 
age and orthodox and all other sects of these.  And then there 
is the individual, who practices what he/she feels is right.  I 
expect it's the same in most religions, which is why it is 
important to KNOW what you believe in, and not go on the words 
of others, including Priests, Rabbis, Prophets, etc.

I have a positive representation of Islam in my life, 
thankfully, because a person sees an entire religion based on 
personal experiences.  There are the crazy psycho Muslims who 
want to kill all infidels and screw little girls, and then there 
are the Muslims I know.  Granted, they are here in America, so 
some of the crazies might think them infidels for even being 
here and loving this country the way they do, but oh well.  My 
Muslim friends are gentle, caring, respectful, and honorable 
people, who, while they are good representatives of their 
religion, they are even better representatives of human beings.

I do not want to associate with the crazy Christians, either, 
the ones who are elitists, skinheads, ultra-conservative, narrow-
minded, who are bigots, who are killers, who are abortion clinic 
bombers, who are just as nuts as the AlQuaida psychos, but I 
consider myself to be a Christian.  Religion is a very personal 
thing, and while a person can SHARE a religion with others, no 
two people can have exactly the same beliefs, nor is it 
reasonable to force a religion upon others.  That is why I liked 
your statement, 'lead by example', because people should WANT to 
belong to a belief and come to it of their own (educated) accord.

If I was an individual looking around at my friends, looking for 
a religion to choose for my life, I would probably want to be 
Muslim, to be like this family I know, because they are a great 
example of people, and if I thought it was the religion that 
inspired them to be the way they are, I would want to pick that 
one.  But obviously, it is not the religion, it is the 
individual.  Some people are really, really crazy out there, and 
that's what scares me -- especially the psychos who have a lot 
of money and power.

From: allatti2d
To:
Subject: amendment
Date: Sun Mar 17 13:35:17 2002

Message:
Amendment to my last post: Regarding my last paragraph, I want 
to make it crystal clear that I would not convert to Islam after 
learning about it as much as I've learned recently.  I don't 
blame a religion for individuals' actions (otherwise I'd be 
condemned for being a Christian), but when a religious doctrine 
encourages behavior I feel is wrong, then that religion is 
wrong... even if the people practicing it are good people, it's 
possible they are ignorant about what their religion encourages.

From: Rami
To: allati2d
Subject: ???
Date: Sun Mar 17 13:51:56 2002

Message:
First of all idont think it was me that wrote "lead by example"
But maybe it was(my memory is not the best...hehe)

I think it is a good post you made about some people just 
screwed up no mather religion. and religion isnt what you should 
make the judgement over it is the person itself
for example i wouldnt say that Henry Kissinger was Fucked up 
because he was a christian or neither would i do that with 
Bin Laden

and about the jew bashing when you try and live in israel and 
being an arab in Israel you will get a big hatred to jews
Because there iam not human iam only half human (for example 
when you go to the airport when you are arab it takes hours you 
go trough about six checks once they took my death fathers 
picture and wanted to rip it open from inside looking for a bomb
also once they took my guitar they thought there was an bomb 
inside or something the broke it totally. they do all this just 
to provoke you. you allmost get beat up by them when you get 
frisked.
even once they did hold a gun to my fathers head and spit on him
and i have many more incidents i will noy meation here
This gives me all the right in the world to hate jews they took 
a country that where never theres to take they treat all arabs 
like shit so when i get pissed i write alot of shit about them i 
cant help my self  

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From: Rami
To: om/cf
Subject: My last statement
Date: Sun Mar 17 14:28:52 2002

Message:
The part about the jew Bashing was to om/cf

From: om/cf
To: Rami
Date: Sun Mar 17 14:35:23 2002

Message:
I can understand the humiliation over such incidents but since 
there are no real live Jews here to defend such actions I'll 
play Jew boy today. LOL!

What do you expect? Red carpet treatment when you are murdering 
our people in Pizzarias and on buses, in thier cars, in grocery 
stores and on the streets. At this point we have to assume every 
Palestinion is wearing a bomb belt or has a gun under his coat. 
Maybe those Isreali's at the airport had just lost a loved one 
courtesy a suicide/human sacrifice bomber. Your the one's 
attacking our people. Every time Isreal makes a concession for 
peace in the region what happens? More Palestinion 
suicide/sacrifice attacks to stop the peace process. It just 
happened again. Its a pattern. Its a pattern. Its a pattern. 
Zinni gets close to a cease fire, the Isreali's are withdrawing 
from the territories, Arafat is almost out of excuses for not 
going to peace talks and imagine that.......another attack on 
Isreali civilians. The Palestinians have no interest in peace, 
they simply want to steal what Isreal has built through hard 
work. They want all of Isreal.


From: Rami
To: om/cf
Subject: Hmmm
Date: Sun Mar 17 15:14:12 2002

Message:
i dont know what to say if you really where jew it was easy'er
(i have tryed to talk to jews before they wouldnt talk to me 
when i said that they didnt deserve a country)

but i will say this that the palestinian people will never stop 
atacking the jewish (the suicide bombers are a good weapon the 
Jewish will never walk the streets and feel safe). Sharon will 
never see the palestinian people on there legs begging for mercy 
Never. You talk about they had just lost loved ones. at the time 
i had just lost my father and they knew
(since they interogate you before you get in line)and for 
suicide bombers they have no life they live in a little shit 
whole with almost no water or any other resources so it is 
understandeble that you will sacrifice yourself (especially if 
you belief you go straight to heaven) and for Sharon he should 
never have gotten the power in israel this is another reason not 
to beliefe in peace when the people chose a terrorist as him to 
be their leader the man who wiped several refugee campes out and 
after that killed the vitnesses (he has done alot of other 
shitty things that never got to the press)

From: Rami
To: All
Subject: Sponsor or spammer
Date: Sun Mar 17 15:51:54 2002

Message:
What is this shit with spamming all over the board really 
annoying shit 

Really idont understand.
no complaining about the sponsor crap ??
if this is some shitty agreement plz fill me in ??

From: some guy
To: Rami
Date: Sun Mar 17 16:07:07 2002

Message:
Good point.  Whoever spams the board must have too much free 
time, acne, be in his 30s and still living w/his parents, be a 
nose-picker, belch and fart on the few dates he gets, and a 
wanker in general.

  In other words, it's probably Sister.  Lol!             


From: Rami
To: Sponsor.....
Subject: Tell.......Me
Date: Sun Mar 17 16:21:00 2002

Message:
Who are you to Spam the board like this ????

From: Rami
To: All
Subject: Bed time
Date: Sun Mar 17 16:59:02 2002

Message:
Its another time zone in denmark (22:51) i will go to sleep now
and i cant answer any posts before tomorow wich will be night in 
the Usa 

From: bdmditt@aol.com
To: Any reader
Subject: One for peace in Afghanistan
Date: Sun Mar 17 19:05:31 2002

Message:
Thank you so much for all you are doing for Afghanistan &  
for this opportunity to interact with you about someone who 
guarantees true peace to everyone living there.  My wife & I 
have been married for over 31 years & we have 3 grown children 
so we have learned a lot about life & how to have peace even in 
hard circumstances.  I am a follower of Jesus, a Pentacostal 
Christian who attends an Assembly of God church & I love the 
people of Afghanistan & have been praying for them.  Jesus says 
in the Bible, "Peace I leave with you, My peace I give to 
you..."  To get to the core issue to getting peace, when you 
die, which could occur at any uncertain time, how do you know 
you would go to Heaven?  I request an answer from you. The 
Bible, proven by what Jesus & it says about itself, experience, 
history, archeology, & other ways to be what God says, tells us 
we are all sinners & that the end of being sinners is eternal 
suffering & death (separation from    God) in hell.  The 
challenge is...what do we do with our sin in order to have it 
forgiven & be allowed into God's Holy Presence.
 
 Jesus & His love & grace for us is the perfect answer:  The 
Bible teaches that Jesus was God who became a man, lived a 
perfect life on this earth, suffered & died on the Cross to 
prove His love for us as our substitute for our sins & rose 
again from the dead to prove He died for ALL our sins...if He 
did not He would still be in the grave like all religious 
leaders are that have died. There is more legal proof that would 
be accepted in a courtroom trial that Jesus rose from the dead 
than that Napoleon ever lived. Getting right with God has 
nothing to do with us doing something for Him or to please Him 
but what Jesus already has done on the Cross.  The Bible clearly 
states this in Ephesians 2:8 - 9: "For by grace you have been 
saved through faith, & that not of yourselves; it is the GIFT of 
God, NOT of works , lest anyone should boast."  Jesus declared 
in the book of John in the New Testament: "I am the Way, the 
Truth & the Life; no man comes to the Father but through me."  
He did not say, "I am a Way, a Truth & a Life..."  but "I am THE 
Way, THE Truth & THE Life."  He narrowed the way to Heaven to 
faith in Himself. So He is not just a prophet or a good teacher 
but the God-man who is the only way to Heaven.  Either He was 
telling the truth...or He was a lunatic...or He was lying.  You 
must decide & live with the consequences. 

 After over 40 years of being introduced to Jesus & inviting Him 
into my heart to forgive my sins & live in me forever, I am 
convinced from all the credible evidence that Jesus is who He & 
others said He is.  I John 5:13 assures us that after trusting 
in Jesus to forgive our sins & live in us, we can KNOW we are 
going to Heaven:  "These things I have written to you who 
believe  in the name of the Son of God, that you may KNOW that 
you have eternal life..."  Read in the Bible for yourself what 
it says about these all-important matters.  Seek Trinity 
Broadcasting Network on your television to learn more first hand 
about what I have been telling you.  You can get it over the 
internet at the following:  Connection speed: Audio only 16K.  
Dial-up modem 28K & 56K. Broadband 100K  300K  500K.
 I am convinced from what the Bible says that we are in the End 
Times & that we are very near the Rapture which is when Jesus 
will return to take all Christians away from the earth just 
prior to the Tribulation.  The Tribulation will be the most 
horrible time of suffering for those who have rejected Jesus to 
save them from their sin on earth that has ever been including 
nuclear warfare.
 Ponder what I have said especially as we pass through Easter to 
remember & celebrate the historical facts of Jesus loving life & 
miracles, His suffering, death on the cruel cross & resurrection 
from the dead.  Thanks for reading what I have written to you. 
God bless you with His promised peace as you trust in Jesus for 
your life.  Let me hear from you please.

From: open mind/closed fist
To: bdmditt@aol.com
Subject: WHAAA!!
Date: Sun Mar 17 20:23:58 2002

Message:
JEEEEEZZZ!! OK, I went to a CBA basketball game this afternoon  
instead of church! I am so FUUUUUUUUCKED!!! Pissed me right off, 
they quit selling beer with 8 minutes left in the game! Im going 
straight to hell, don't ya think?

From: Joe American
To: the board
Subject: A little introspect
Date: Sun Mar 17 19:56:50 2002

Message:
Deism... what does it mean?  Hey, ALL YOU FUCKING IGNORANT 
REDNECKS OUT THERE, by looking up the word deism, you are also 
practicing it.  Try it more often, maybe you'll learn something 
about yourself, something about the word, rather than just 
living your lives inside the television.  There's a world out 
there; go discover it.  It extends much farther than the local 
McDonald's.  It extends past altars where you go to feed your 
goddamed egos:  "My religion is the true religion, and I am 
righteous."  Well, fuck your spoon-fed minds with no cause but 
your own.  I don't hate anybody.  I surrended to the 
unconditional love and embrace of the cosmos.  Sorry, I'm using 
big words again that you don't understand.  I'm sorry for 
attacking you with my dirty mouth.  It's just that all you 
motherfuckers have left my compassion so damn bruised.  
Nevertheless, I will bleed for you.  And I will smile as rip me 
apart, ideal by ideal.  Do you know why?  Because you don't know 
it, but I've already died so many times before.  I die everyday 
because of what you've done to me.  And I don't mind it 
anymore.  I like the pain.  And I'm free in a way that you could 
never offer.  Get ready for the Reparation Shift.  Embrace you 
and your counterparts.  I love you all.  Deism.  Truth will be 
it that binds you.  The science of rational thought will deliver 
you from these spiritual chains.  Look into the sky and see the 
spirals of newborn nebulas.  There is a direct relation here, 
between you and the breeze which shakes your energy.  Let us not 
be so self-conscious to ignore the collective unconscious.  I 
have these words pounded into my head, from a song maybe not so 
worth remembering, "Free your mind, and the rest will follow."  
There is an evil among this world, and it has been here for too 
long to remember.  Whether it came from outer space or another 
dimension, whether it is material or spiritual, we know that it 
is here.  And we know it's attributes.  It is greedy, murderous, 
apathetic, etc.  It will distort the truth to its advantage.  It 
will at times make itself seem very appealing and holy.  
Together, we can beat it.  It's very easy.  But you have to do 
something to yourself that you may not like.  You must repeat 
after me:  I BELIEVE IN NOTHING.   By saying this, your ego's 
self interest are taken away.  It's that simple.  From there, 
all you must do is embrace whatever will come, whatever will 
be.  Compromise you will and sacrifice your intentions to be 
content with this human experience.  There is so much mystery in 
this experience that we call humanity, starting with how we came 
about.  I ask you to research this phantom truth, search in and 
out of every shadow for reason.  And as doing so, repeat after 
me, I BELIEVE IN NOTHING.  Look into the mystery of the three 
dimensions, the platonic solids, the seed of life, the flower of 
life, and all the building blocks of creation, the spirals, the 
circle.  How does humanity fit into the peripheral spectrum of 
the universe?  The answer is in the focus on the full spectrum.  
Educate yourself beyond The Discovery Channel.  Realize that 
political interests have everything to do with public education, 
religious education, no matter what part of the world you live 
in.  BELIEVE IN NOTHING so that you may make yourself vulnerable 
to a subliminal consciousness that speaks with wisdom greater 
than all your "precious" spiritual and governmental leaders.  
This will be your own, your own power, your own freedom, locked 
inside your heart and mind-brain.  And you will share it with 
others in only one language, the universal language, which 
always has been and always will be the language of LOVE.

Later, when the stars fall,
Joe American

P.s.  If anybody would like to imposter my name, go right 
ahead.  So I choose to declare that this is my first and last 
visit to this site.  Though, I will appear elsewhere on the web 
by another name.  And I will further express the words which I 
have envisioned in the name of love.

P.p.s.  Ignore big brother... and maybe he'll just go away.

P.p.p.s.  Make love, not war.  

P.p.p.p.s.  For all you Christian fanatics (by the way, I love 
all fanatics just the same):  Judge not...  (you know the rest)

P.p.p.p.p.s. peace is now

From: om/cf
To: Joe
Date: Sun Mar 17 21:25:21 2002

Message:
When good religion goes bad........daaaaang! Thanks for passin 
that water bong of cosmic subliminal consciousness this way. 
Jerry Sienfeld may be coming after you about the "believe in 
nothing" phrase, him being a money grubbing Jew and all.

From: Fact s Finder
To: Concern women, allati,Rami, Pathfinder and all
Subject: Peace be with you.
Date: Sun Mar 17 20:34:52 2002

Message:
Wow, this board is getting more and more post, could not even 
find my post.

To concern woman
Yes, I read articles about woman in Islam too but in some better 
develop muslims countries, this is not the case. Man can married 
4 wives but must have the consent of the 1st wife. About the 
beating, maybe it is still practice in those trouble areas, 
example Afghanistan. Divorce, yes, it is easy, you can just sent 
SMS.

About Mohammed, I didn't know that he had so many wife, and as 
young as 9 years old. Can some muslims enlighten me with this. I 
will do my own research too.

To allati2d,
It was I who say that we must lead by our example and behaviour 
to bring our religion to the others. This was in reply to Franky 
60 questions about Christainity. I told him that I have reply 
for his 60 questions but it will take pages to read. The 60 
questions was asked in a Muslims web site. How much do they know 
about the teaching. It told Franky to understand the 60 question 
he has to attend bible studies classes and as I say there are 
many question to be ask about Islam too but it will just lead to 
long debate. To avoid this I give him a website for him to do 
his own reference and I also mention that if anyone is 
interested to know more they can go to that site. Anyway I can 
see that 60 questions has done some damage to Christainity. Just 
let it be, as I say it is by our example that will lead people 
to our religion. Just refer to all must past post. There is 
never once any hatred in it.

To Rami
Sorry to learn about the ill treatment you receive but I feel 
the same way Om/Cf feels. It is for security reason.

As for asking "your sponsor" to stop posting those stupid one 
liner, I did try in a nice way to ask him to stop too. Maybe 
this time he will. Good Luck.

To Pathfinder
You wrote:
"It is a religion that sends its sons and daughters off wrapped 
in TNT to kill other children.  Moslems drug the bodies of dead 
American pilots through the streets in Somalia.  Moslems 
beheaded Danny Pearl.  Moslems ran aircraft into the WTC and 
elsewhere.  Moslems behead their captives in the Phillipians"

Yes I totally agree with you, that is very wrong. Can you 
imagine if the west or any other coutries were to do that to 
muslims living, reporting or whatever in their coutries. Would 
muslim be safe. I just pray that this will not happen.

And lastly
Let us all pray to our GOD to bring peace to the world. Let us 
lead by his teaching of love not hate, peace not war, 
forgiveness not revenge, give not take and knowledge not gossip.

Peace be with you all and your family too.

From: Brother
To: All Muslims
Date: Mon Mar 18 00:32:19 2002

Message:
Unfortunately, Muslims deserve part of the ill-reputation that 
plaques Islam. How long can we blame the Westerners OR their 
media before looking inward? Pay attention to our own people - 
so many give others reasons to believe Islam is oppressive and 
unjust. Consider the husband who won't let his beaten wife apply 
for a passport, the "Islamic Government" that won't let women 
drive, the "jihad-ers" who attack men with inadequate beards, 
fathers who circumcise their little girls and the bearded 
immigrant who thinks blowing up public buildings, killing 
innocent people - even women and children, is going to prove 
anything besides their own irresponsibility. 

Our Ummah increasingly needs to not only study but apply the 
Quranic principles of peace, love, forgiveness, brotherhood and 
rights of women before we "lecture" others; or else WE ARE ALL 
CULPRITS IN THIS WAR AGAINST ISLAM. Let's not be living examples 
of horrid misconceptions and lies about Islam - let's be 
examples that will invite Non-Muslims to learn about the TRUE 
Islam. The world around us has just ushered in the new 
Millenium. More than 1400 years have passed since the Holy 
Prophet Muhammad was sent to set any example for mankind but how 
very far we have deviated from it. 


From: Rami
To: Fact s Finder
Subject: Security !!!
Date: Mon Mar 18 01:35:30 2002

Message:
No i do agree that this is for security reasons this is 
provokation and you get it all the time. What is the reason to 
stop you abiut five times when you go on a two hour car trip
They sit there and wait for an arab to drive by and they stop him
just because he is an arab. that is not security that is Racism
He comes With his "Shalom" i  wonder what is really the meaning 
with this word because somehow it always brings shit
when you go to the mall all the jewish will want to seem superior
security is just an excuse to bash you When you go to israel
and live like an arab then you can lecter me about security
when you tryed being second grade human then come back and tell 
that you dont feel any hatred come back and say it was for 
security reasons when you wait in the airport five hour(going 
trough five or six long lasting checks). its was for security 
when you got spit on. It was for security they beat you up. 

 
and for the airport this was a chldrens family what where we to 
do blow our own family up. This mostly is just provocation What 
is the reason for scanning you little coins they brake you down 
and when you  are about to go off and hit someone they send some 
sweet little girl (from here it go's fast you cut trough all 
lines) 

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From: Facts Finder
To: Rami
Date: Mon Mar 18 03:20:44 2002

Message:
Yes I do symphatise with the innocent Arab that have to go 
through checks in Isreaal but as I say it is for security reason.

Look at the treatment of Arab in America airports before and 
after Sept 11. I have a friend who is a Muslim and was stop and 
check at London airport too. I don't call the racists. It is 
because he is a muslim and look like Arab. Who causes this 
incovenience? If war were fought between military and military, 
I would not say that this would not happen but it might not be 
that bad. Too many civilian, including women and children are 
involved in attacks on the Jewish people. So they have to be 
extra careful.

It is unfortunate, that you have to bear with such treatment. I 
do feel your anger.

From: Your Sponsor in Nigeria
To:
Date: Mon Mar 18 03:42:41 2002

Message:
LET'S GO BACK TO THE OLD MORALS AND VALUES!
-ISLAM-
GIVES RAPED WOMEN LIKE SAFIYA WHAT THEY DESERVE:
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From: Merlyn
To: Rami
Date: Mon Mar 18 09:08:44 2002

Message:
My apologies, something had me thinking you were a %$## Muslim. 
Certanly must have bee on a muslim hate day. 
  In recent news, yesterday, we see yet another Protestant 
Church attacked by the religious extremist. Now if they hate 
Jews, WTF are they trowing gernades in a Christian church? The 
Christians are such a small minority, what's the point?
  Terrorism, is the only point. The Drug lords are fighting over 
the Poppy fields of Afghanistan, the Oil shieks fighting for oil 
profits, Pakistanies fighting Isrial over the land. Nut cases 
strapping bombs on & blowing them selves up and Sharon playing 
with his tanks. 
   Where in all this is a "peaceful religion?" The sad Saddam is 
sitting back in cold war depression just milking the sanction 
game for all the pitty he can get. Then there is 
Africa.......... and the Hinuds (who don't take any shit at all)
   And in all of this crap, they ask America to make peace??!! 
After attacking us? MMMMMmmmmmmm yea, RIGHT! 
  Fat chance, just drags us into it all over again. We are not 
interested.  

From: Merlyn
To: Sister bull shit muslim
Subject: tough talk
Date: Mon Mar 18 09:36:37 2002

Message:
(WE AS MUSLIMS FIGHT ITS 
TO PRTECT OUR LANDS AND OUR PEOPLE FROM SAVAGES) 
Savages like Osama? the Russians? or do you just FORGET a lot?
You are a stupid FUCK! And as for your pissy religion, I just un 
converted a Muslim, into a CHRISTIAN! Just thought you would 
like to know! 
  The fact is that Osama just put the Muslim religion into a 
tail spin! That sick fuck just stopped the Muslim movement in 
America and started a trend away from the sick Satan Allah SHIT!
  SMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOTH move   EXLAX!
And learn to type, spell and use the little "shift key" !!

From: Rami
To: Fact s Finder
Subject: Really !!
Date: Mon Mar 18 09:30:03 2002

Message:
So you dont find this anything near Harrasment or Provokation 
(racism) When did you last see a whole family blow them self 
up........ Never as i recall it (Plz meantion the incidents when 
woman and children attacked the jewish people). the least of 
what they do is for security reasons (what about when the 
american police stopped Martin Luther King then it could just as 
well have been for security reason or what) its like the easyest 
way to get away with it is this damn excuse

You dont understand that most jewish hate arabs and want them 
off the planet just as well as arabs want the same for jews.
(But i think that the palestinians have a good reason...like 
that the jewish stole their country and i dont C the jew's 
excuse)

You know its funny to C a people who was just in the middle of 
the Holocaust then a couple of years later go and do something 
like this to another people

From: Your Sponsor in the USA
To:
Date: Mon Mar 18 09:56:07 2002

Message:
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From: Rami
To: To the Fucked up sponsor with the texas mentality
Subject: Fuck off
Date: Mon Mar 18 10:26:18 2002

Message:
Hmm why dont you fuck of 
Islam is full of happy loving people
And the arabic culture i think is way better than the european 
or American culture its full of tradition iam just afraid that 
they will go away with the new generation and then it will 
become americanised this is a big fear of mine (and i have tryed 
both cultures and the arabic culture offers so much more unity
And friendship

From: Franky
To: Everyone
Date: Mon Mar 18 10:45:22 2002

Message:
I CANT BE ASKED SENDING ANY MORE MESSAGES 

THE QURAN SAYS LET PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT ISLAM AND INVITE THEM IF 
THEY REFUSE TELL THEM PEACE AND GOD WILL DEAL WITH THEM IN THE 
HEREAFTER!

SO I AM SAYING PEACE TO ALL OF YOU AND WE SHALL SEE EACH OTHER 
AGAIN AFTER DEATH

GOOD LUCK IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE FROM NOW I ON I WANT BE SENDING 
ANY MORE MESSAGES!!!!!

From: Simple simon
To: Franky
Subject: Hey!
Date: Mon Mar 18 10:58:29 2002

Message:
I didn't say simon says! If the Quran said kill yourself, would 
you do it? probably so. Brain washed? NNNNnnnnnnnnnoooooooo of 
coarse not! Pthhhhhhhhhh!

From: allatti2d
To: Brother, Facts Finder, & Rami
Subject: Islam
Date: Mon Mar 18 10:59:50 2002

Message:
Brother, your post was fantastic.  I hope everyone read it.  My 
son's best friend is an Arab Muslim in a devout Muslim family, 
and they are some of the best people I know (the ones I was 
referring to in my earlier post), and I love them dearly.  My 
huband's bosses are Jewish brothers, who worked very hard for 
many years to build their business, and their family is also 
kind, loving, and caring, and I also care very much about this 
family as well.  It is the individuals, not their heritage or 
religion, that we should look at and care about.  Who is anyone 
to say that their religion or their race is superior to 
another?  No one can say that for certain, not until we go to 
the next life, and by then it ceases to matter.

Facts Finder, thank you for correcting me.  I did see the web 
site that you referenced, but I haven't visited it yet.  I think 
discussions about religion and anything else will happen here no 
matter what anyway (please see above! lol).  That's part of the 
problem, though I still feel individuals bear the responsibility 
for their actions, not the religion, and not everyone practices 
the same religion in the same way.  I still appreciate what you 
said about leading by example, not by force.

Rami, I too am sorry for your treatment in airports and 
elsewhere.  We are dealing with heavy security in American 
airports that some are construing as racism, but the environment 
here is very different than in the middle east.  I am very sad 
about the conflict between Jews and Arabs, that so much hatred 
exists and so much hurt & death comes of it.  Not all suicide 
bombers are people with no lives who live in holes, however; 
plenty have families and children and parents who love them and 
are not happy with their decision to die.  The ones who have 
families are granted a rather large sum of money to leave to 
their families by the ones training them and preparing them for 
their missions.  They don't do this alone, they have help... not 
that many people have the resources or knowledge of how to 
construct a bomb and where the best place to blow themselves up 
is, the timing, etc.

I don't doubt that you have been the victim of racism by many 
Jews, just as Jews are victims of racism by many Palestinians.  
I sure wish you had more good experiences to draw from.  In 
America, after the WTC attacks, Jewish Temples were aligning 
themselves together with Mosques, joining together to condemn 
terrorism and hatred.  I wish you could have seen that!  It was 
heartwarming, to say the least.  I have had good experiences 
with both Jews and Muslims, and I am fortunate to know very 
good, caring people from all walks of life.  Before peace can 
happen in the middle east, people need to see ALL others as 
human beings, as part of the same human race that we all are, 
and that we must work together to get along rather than tear 
each other apart and think of each other as less than human, as 
less than important.  It begins with one person, then goes to 
the next, and the next, and so on.

Let there be peace on earth, and let it begin with me...

From: allatti2d
To: everyone
Date: Mon Mar 18 11:39:53 2002

Message:
Sorry about that last line... I got all carried away with 
myself!!!  Damn, I really sound like a tree-hugging Californian 
now, don't I?  heeheehee!

From: COMMANDO
To: OM/CF
Date: Mon Mar 18 12:11:12 2002

Message:
I support the existence of Israel.  It would be nice if the 
Palestinians had a true nation of their own.  
  You make an excellent point:  Arafat is out of excuses.  And he 
is out of time.  I don't trust the alleged Palestinian 
"leadership" either; Hamas (pronounced "Dumbass"?) are evil 
subhumans fit only for their own deaths.  

  Rami, if your beloved Palestinian terrorist buddies want to die 
for their cause, then I hope the Israeli military kills them for 
it

From: Your Modern Sponsor
To: Rami
Date: Mon Mar 18 12:15:10 2002

Message:
You remember? - 9/11: "Nothing will be the same after this day"-
Being politically over-correct should be one of the first things 
to go.
You've all asked for it.....

From: Merlyn
To: allatti2d
Date: Mon Mar 18 12:13:42 2002

Message:
You sound like a real dingbat,not a Californian.Get some 
help,stupid whore.

From: People
To: Your Modern Sponsor
Date: Mon Mar 18 12:28:29 2002

Message:
all asked for what? your stupid hogging of the board like a 
little child? what 4year old doesnt demand attention saying look 
at me!look at me!

From: muzz
To: all
Subject: palestine
Date: Mon Mar 18 14:01:41 2002

Message:
All you people talking shit about the Palestinian conflict don't 
know anything about.. you don't know what 're talking about..

This land has ALWAYS been Palestina.. it had been "awarded" to 
Jews in '48.. from then on Israel began to take more & more 
land, and build settlements all over the place, and humiliating 
Palestinians trough the years.. If you have something intresting 
to say about this, please inform yourself first..


From: Rami
To: Muzz.Commander
Date: Mon Mar 18 14:37:51 2002

Message:
First of all Muzz i know the situation iam from palestine

and To the sponsor
you know iam christian second what do you mean deserved it
the americans did more than enough dont start talking about 
deserveing

Commander 
You are one stupid fucker first of all you think that its ok for 
you (the americans) to bomb Afghanistan looking for terrorists 
but it isnt ok for other people to defend them selfs other than 
america is this how you C it or what (palestine was taking with 
power if anyone did the same with america you would hate them 
ever so much more)

From: Rami
To: All
Date: Mon Mar 18 14:57:16 2002

Message:
Somebody please mention a incident where palestinian women and 
children where involved in terror actions

From: Satan
To: Om/cf
Date: Mon Mar 18 14:35:53 2002

Message:
redneck die just like all other kind. this how you die.  begging 
for life.  someday. so much apathy. no respect.  you die like a 
dog.  but it won't be me.  i ok.  i just fine in life.  jerry 
seinfeld got your balls for dinner.  he say they too small.  
fucking redneck.  you need army to stand in front of you.  why 
do you not fight yourself.  fucking coward.  got opinions and no 
guts.  i live in comfort.  i smile when you die.  it ok.  i 
smile when i die too.

From: Your Sponsor
To: People, Franky, Rami
Date: Mon Mar 18 14:58:06 2002

Message:
Sorry, my last message should have been addressed to Franky, not 
to Rami.

From: om/cf
To: Rami
Date: Mon Mar 18 15:56:02 2002

Message:
http://www.etherzone.com/2002/kidbombers.shtml

From: om/cf
To: Satan
Subject: HAHAHAHA
Date: Mon Mar 18 16:00:16 2002

Message:
It makes me feel good to piss off Satan!!!LOL!!! SUCK ME SATAN!!
EAT SHIT SATAN!!! HAHAHAH!!!! KISS MY ASS SATAN!!!!! GO FUCK 
YOURSELF SATAN!!!! LOOOOL!!! QUIT JACKING OFF SO YA CAN USE THE 
SHIFT KEY SATAN!!!! HEHEHE!!! HAVE A NICE DAY SATAN!!!!

From: om/cf
To: Rami
Date: Mon Mar 18 16:29:30 2002

Message:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,640597,00.ht
ml

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_1787000
/1787510.stm

From: Rami
To: om/cf
Subject: Zeonist Propaganda
Date: Mon Mar 18 16:42:29 2002

Message:
Couldnt you pleaze have spared me the obviosly fake this is 
shitty propaganda the zeonists are not dum i never said that
but did you really think that i would even one second think it 
was real (if you where to photograph you would have got killed 
and you camera surely trashed)

You dont really belief it yourself do you(or maybe you are a 
part of the zeonists) ?? 

Just to the other readers if you believe this etherzone 
propaganda shit then you should consider thinking again
the zeonists are well known in this area faking things up
they did it so many times before

and for the one accident of ONE woman suicide bomber i do not 
aprove of it but it is her choice if she wants to sacrifice her 
self i feel for her family (and after all you do have women in 
the army)

The third link you gave me(the BBC one) didnt work so if 
somethings is wrong with it would you plz give me the right one

From: om/cf
To: muzz
Subject: ALWAYS my ass
Date: Mon Mar 18 16:56:13 2002

Message:
This land has ALWAYS been Palestina.. it had been "awarded" to 
Jews in '48.. from then on Israel began to take more & more 
land, and build settlements all over the place, and humiliating 
Palestinians trough the years.. If you have something intresting 
to say about this, please inform yourself first..
================================================================
Four thousand years ago, in Genesis, God told Abraham, "I will 
bless those who bless you, and I will curse him who curses you." 
Mount Moriah - now the Temple Mount in Jerusalem - is where 
Jewish and Christian tradition hold that Abraham almost 
sacrificed his son Isaac. Isaac's son Jacob was renamed Israel 
by God, and given the promise of the land of Canaan (now Israel) 
and a covenant that he and his descendants would be "God's 
people" forever. Israel became a nation in 1312 B.C. and since 
then Jerusalem has been the Jewish capital. Seven hundred and 
twenty six years later (586 B.C.), the first Jewish Temple (on 
today's Temple Mount) was destroyed by Nebuchadnezzer, king of 
Babylon. In 70 A.D., it was the Roman Empire's turn to conquer 
Israel and destroy the second Jewish Temple, slaughtering or 
driving out much of the Jewish population. The Romans called the 
land Palestine for the Philistines, as a humiliation to the Jews 
who had defeated the Philistines centuries earlier. Many Jews 
left because conditions of life were made unbearable, yet 
thousands stayed and rebelled for centuries to rebuild a Jewish 
nation in this Holy Land. 

Over the next 1,878 years - the Diaspora - various peoples, 
religions, and empires, including Christian crusaders, the 
Ottomans - and briefly the British - marched through Jerusalem. 
None were interested in building a nation there. Included in 
these "invaders" were the Arabs. In 636 A.D., Arab marauders 
came to the land and uprooted many Jews, but they did not form 
an Arab nation, certainly not a "Palestinian" nation. The name 
Palestine is mentioned 4 times in the Bible - not once in the 
Koran. The name Jerusalem is mentioned 767 times in the Bible - 
not once in the Koran. No nation, other than ancient Israel and 
the reborn nation of Israel in 1948, has ever reigned as a 
sovereign national entity in the land of Canaan. 

Modern Israel is a miracle. This tiny nation, now with 6,000,000 
people and 7,500 square miles, is the third greatest military 
power in the world. In November 1947, the U.N. General Assembly 
voted to partition the British mandate of Palestine into two 
territories that were envisioned as future states - one 
predominantly Jewish, the other Arab. Six months later, on May 
14, 1948, hours before the British withdrew, the state of Israel 
was proclaimed and immediately recognized by the United States 
and Soviet Union. At that moment 54 years ago, the Palestinians 
had a state, or a territory designated for a creation of their 
state. If reason had governed, two small nations might have 
thrived as neighbors at peace. But it was not to be. On May 15, 
one day after Israel's declaration of statehood, the Arab 
regimes of Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq, and Syria set their 
armies in motion with the stridently declared objective of 
driving the Jews into the sea. History shows they failed. The 
Arabs had 250,000,000 people, Israel 700,000. The Arabs had 
1,500,000 square miles of territory, Israel 4,000. 

They failed again in 1956 at Suez and, even more decisively, in 
the six-day war of 1967, that ended in humiliation, especially 
for Egypt, whose soldiers threw down their weapons and fled on 
foot back across the Sinai, with some 10,000 perishing in the 
retreat. The final failure was in the 1973 Yom Kippur war, which 
began with an Egyptian and Syrian attack on October 6, the 
Hebrew Day of Atonement and the 10th day of the Muslim holy 
month of Ramadan. After four wars and tens of thousands of Arab 
and Israeli deaths, the Arab states had enough. In a series of 
historic blunders, they ensured the Palestinians continued 
statelessness. Having spent lives and treasures to no point, 
Egypt and Jordan agreed to peace. The Israelis did not take any 
land from the 
Palestinians, but bought it or won it in battle from the Arab 
nations who attacked them, so the term "occupied territories" is 
a misnomer. 

Through those 25 years of confrontation and 29 troubled years 
since, no Arab country, except for Jordan, has allowed 
Palestinians to immigrate in significant numbers, extended 
rights of citizenship, or committed resources to relieving the 
misery in the refugee camps. About 2 million Palestinian 
refugees have lived in camps in Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, 
Saudi Arabia, and Egypt since 1948, and about 1 million live in 
the West Bank and Gaza. If the oil rich Arab regimes and the 
Palestinian Authority have such compassion for the refugees, why 
do they leave them in camps? Israel has absorbed 2 million Jews 
from the Soviet Union and the Arab nations, at great expense, 
yet there are no Jewish refugee camps. The Palestinians are just 
an excuse for the Arabs, a means to have a surrogate guerilla 
army within Israel. Generations of young, born in the camps, 
have no profession but violence, no ambition but martyrdom, no 
creed but rage. So today, Palestinian youths strap explosives to 
their bodies and blow themselves to eternity, somehow imagining 
it will help secure for their people the state they could have 
had in 1948, except for the tragic miscalculations of their Arab 
brethren. The virulent hatred is flamed by militant Muslims, who 
have declared a holy war of terror against Israel - and the 
United States for supporting Israel. Without us, they would 
again try to drive the Jews into the sea, and if Israel could be 
destroyed the United States would no longer be the enemy. It's 
all about Israel. 

From: Rami
To: om/cf
Subject: Really
Date: Mon Mar 18 17:11:52 2002

Message:
First of all i believe the jewish religion is faked so that they 
can ensure their rights to take palestine. so you say because it 
was the their country for 4 thousand years ago they deserve it 
today, and why is it that the zeonists first wanted some part of 
Argentina if they from the first felt it was theres (palestine)

What is this you say You should shut you big mouth about Jews 
being intitled to Palestine, What about the indians right to 
hold america or the abuarigians right to hold australia. and 
this shit about there being no inhabitants is just being plain 
is just being plain ignorant this is a again propaganda from the 
zeonists(witch i again is suspecting you to be a part of)

and i will let you know when the cross knights rode trough 
palestine there where already palestinians they converted alot 
of them including my ancestors

and as for the israel's winning the wars they had backup by the 
biggest war mashine in the world (usa) witch is still giving 
them so much money that you wouldnt believe it why do you think 
they have not the third but the second strongest army in the 
world(not meantioning the support from germany) so by winning a 
war against other countrys that fought for palestine they have 
the rights to take over half of the country absurd

and for the refugees taking in by the jewish it is because they 
need to be more jews than there is palestinians you know all the 
russian refugees are living like second grade jews just above 
Christian arabs and then lowest muslims

If the jewish didnt have the second biggest lobby in USA
maybe there wouldnt have been so much support for an fake state 
like israel you know the USA should their heads out of what isnt 
there own.



From: om/cf
To: Commando
Subject: Our opinions dont count! HAHA!
Date: Mon Mar 18 17:44:04 2002

Message:
I hate getting into the Iseal vs. Palestine issue, but we all 
have a right to our opinions, this is the internet for Christs 
sake! Freedom is GREAT!! So, Mr. Satan, stick that pitchfork up 
your ass BITCH!!! Fuck with me and I'll kill ya! And I can back 
that statement up.

NONE of the Arab countries give a flying fuck about the 
Palastinian people. OOOOH, they pass the hat around Iraq, Iran, 
Saudi Arabia, Egypt etc., and they all donate the smallest 
amount of money they can get away with without looking petty, 
for the Palestinians. But, all those countries DO NOT want the 
Palestinian/Isreal problem to be solved because it would 
eliminate another excuse to use for the failures of their 
religious forms of goverment in todays world.

From: Rami
To: om/cf
Subject: Forgot...??
Date: Mon Mar 18 18:19:08 2002

Message:
Have you stopped answering my questions or at least coming with 
a remark i hope you write something for me to respond on for 
tomorow because iam going to sleep now

From:
To:
Date: Mon Mar 18 18:20:31 2002

Message:
and for the one accident of ONE woman suicide bomber i do not 
aprove of it but it is her choice if she wants to sacrifice her 
self i feel for her family. First of all i believe the jewish 
religion is faked so that they 
can ensure their rights to take palestine

From: Merlyn
To:
Date: Mon Mar 18 18:25:08 2002

Message:
Human Sacrifice............ The other religion is 
fake.............................................................
.................................................................
...................BULLSHIT!.....................................
.................................................................
....................................................
                   Throwing gernades into a church!
              BRAVE FIGHTERS FOR THEIR CAUSE???????
                        BULL SHIT!
                        CHICKEN SHIT!
               NO ONE BELEIVES THIS SHIT!
              MUSLIMS WORSHIP SATIN AND SACRIFICE HUMANS!
                    >>>>>FACT<<<<<<<<<<<<,

From: om/cf
To: Merlyn & Rami
Date: Mon Mar 18 18:35:50 2002

Message:
Merlyn:
I had to leave work and nurse a sick child this afternoon and 
apparently stirred up a hornets nest. Whoops. LOL!!

Rami:
Night night, sleep tight. I'll see what I can come up with.

From: COMMANDO
To: RAMI
Date: Mon Mar 18 19:17:07 2002

Message:
SAME TO YA, GIRLFRIEND!  YOU'RE ABOUT AS DUMB AS A FUCKIN' 
ROCK TO TAKE THE ARROGANT ATTITUDE YOU DO!  SO THERE! 



   aSSHOLE           

From: FTLOG
To: all
Subject: A Brave New World
Date: Mon Mar 18 18:49:59 2002

Message:
First of all, as to not be attacked by any biased party, I would 
like to state that I do not agree with any of the attacks on 
America.  Obviously, these attacks were a bi-product of 
somebody's agression toward the U.S.  More specifically, I see 
it as an attack on what the WTC stands for, a new world order.  
Could it be that these terrorists weren't striking us because of 
our standard of living, or our foreign policies, rather, they 
were attacking an idea that is more rapidly materializing in 
this new millenium, the idea of a brave new world.  A world with 
one currency, one power, one religion, one currency... Why?  Is 
it because in many religions, many writings of prophetic origin 
predict that this establishment of a new world order will bring 
about a thousand years of pseudo-peace, a thousand years of the 
Anti-Christ, come to enslave the spirits of the human race?  And 
if it is already prophecized, then why not let it happen, that 
is, if we are meant to end up wherever we are destined to go.  
Why not let the Anti-Christ have his time on earth, if indeed, 
the United States is trying to breed a new world order leading 
to the Anti-Christ?  I'm not saying that America is evil; I 
believe the contrary.  And I'm not prepared to say that the 
Muslim society is evil, for I was taught as a Christian to love 
all and not judge, for that is the work of the Father.  So let's 
say that neither parties in this battle are right and wrong, 
just for the sake of argument.  Right and wrong are merely 
consequencial.  These Muslim Fundamentalist were consequentially 
wrong in blowing up the trade center, simply because the men and 
women who died did so in vain.  Their lost lives cannot be 
regained, not even through war and seizure of another nation.  
But on the other hand, they were right in what they did, because 
they felt that they were truly doing the work of God.  But then 
again, our government wants to believe that they do the work of 
God, to give all men and women over the face of the earth the 
one true gift of life, being freedom.  Now freedom is the 
greatest virtue to bear.  We all know how it feels to have it 
taken away from us, when we cannot have what we will or intend.  
So our America is in fact good, in its ideals, in any case.  We, 
Americans have also seen corruption within our own government 
and have lost the practice of "for the people, by the people."  
Politicians have snuck their secrets under our noses ever since 
we started not giving a shit about what they did.  "Oh, they're 
the politicians, leave the politics to them.  I've got my own 
hardships."  It's either this case, or the case that most 
Americans don't understand what goes on in their government or 
what it means because laws and articles and policies become 
double bladed swords, untouchable but amendable, under the 
discretion of a manipulative power.  But we have our freedom.  
We can spend our money on anything we like.  We can believe 
anything we like, although at times we may still be taunted, but 
never stoned by an angry mob.  We live in a paradise governed by 
the greedy and mischievious, yet we're fine with it as long as 
we have our freedom.
I guess my whole intention in saying all this is to point out 
the duality of nations.  "If you ignore big brother, then he may 
just go away." as Joe American said in an above passage, is 
probably the way most Americans are living anyway.  The polls 
will difinitely support this theory.  As many people as there 
are who are allowed to vote, with the equal rights movement and 
such, there are actually less people taking interest in what the 
government does at all.  Why?  Is it because deep down inside, 
we know that no nation will ever hold up as long as all nations 
are separate?  And yet nobody wants the other team to win, thus 
chaos overcomes.  If you haven't noticed, I myself have lost 
interest in this whole cherade.  If the Muslims believe I am 
evil because I value my freedom, then so be it.  If I am 
considered an disloyal citizen in my own country because I wish 
not to take interest in a government's affairs to defend 
something that cannot even be taken away from me (being 
freedom), then so be it.  I am an evil, disloyal citizen who 
values freedom.  And now I don't even know why I'm on this site 
because, FOLKS, I really just don't give a shit.  And if you 
really value your one true birthrite, all our God-given 
freedoms, then, my friends, you'd say the same thing too.  I 
just don't give a shit.

From: Facts Finder
To: All
Subject: Interview with GOD
Date: Mon Mar 18 19:23:10 2002

Message:
Hi Every one this is something wonderful I found and it touches 
me. It is for all to read, whatever religion you are.

http;//168.143.173.209/IWGnet.swf

God Bless

From: Facts Finder
To: Rami
Date: Mon Mar 18 19:56:45 2002

Message:
I believe someone have given you the information about the women 
suicide bombers. Rami it sad that what is happening in 
Palestinian. Whose land is it? As I mention sometime back 
Palestine was one call philistine and they occupied a small area 
in the south near the sea, the rest of the information is from 
Om/Cf post.

The problem here is the extremists groups not the Palestinian or 
the Isreal. Everyone one to go the negotiating table but the 
attack must stop. Each time we as the outside world saw or read 
the the Isreal is withdrawing, another suicide bomber will 
explode and cause Isreal to retaliate again and again.

If the palestinian hate America so much, why ask America to 
negotiate for them. I can also understand why America did 
nothing during last few months of fighting. Just look at what 
happen after Sept 11. We as the outside world saw men, women and 
children dancing in the street with joy when the whole world was 
shock, digust, and angry with what happen. Can you remember that 
Fat lady sticking out her tonque or you did not get to watch 
that. I really would like to know what happen to her now.

Come On Rami, nobody hates palestinian or Islam but all human 
have their own view about what is happening around them.

Yes, I will continue to pray for world peace and justice, and to 
make this world a better place for you and for me and the entire 
human race.

From: om/cf
To: Fact Finders
Subject: Thanks for the link
Date: Mon Mar 18 20:20:37 2002

Message:
That was a good video with a lot of good thoughts. 

From: Facts Finder
To: All
Subject: Believing in Jesus
Date: Mon Mar 18 19:23:10 2002

Message:
Can someone enlighten me with these

The muslims, believe jesus was born by a virgin

They believe he was sent directly from God(Allah)

They believe he perform miracles

They believe he can raise the dead

They believe he is sinless not like any other prophets

They believe that he died and was raise up by GOD

They believe he died for our sins

They believe that he would come and judge us on our last day.

They believe that he is with GOD.

And with all this informations is from the Qu'ran, yet they are 
so against his religion. Why?. Below is a passage for you to 
read further

The Quran states several times that Christ was not born in the 
normal way, as we are. His father was not a human being. He was 
conceived in the Virgin Mary without the interference of a human 
father, for Allah breathed His spirit into her. This makes 
Christ exclusively the only one in the whole world who was born 
of the Word of God and His spirit.

"Truly, the Messiah, Isa, Son of Mariam,the ambassador of Allah, 
is His word that He bestowed upon Mariam;and He is Spirit of 
Him" (Women 4:171).

"We breathed in her of our Spirit" (The Prophets 21:91).
"We breathed in Him of our Spirit" (The Forbidding 66:12).

Christ is not a usual man, but the divine Spirit incarnated in 
human flesh. Thus He was born of the Spirit of God and the 
Virgin Mary.

From the Quran the divine promises to Mary (Mariam) about Christ 
who was to be born to her;

"O Mariam, Allah gives you good tidings of  a word from Him 
whose name shall be the Messiah, Isa, the son of Mariam,
highly honored in this world and the next; and he shall be one 
of those brought near  to Allah "
(The House of Imran 3: 45).

The most high Himself evangelized Mary and informed her 
personally about the birth of Christ, calling Him "A Word from 
Him. All the prophets heard the word of God and transcribed it 
sincerely. As for Christ, He not only heard the inspired word, 
He Himself was incarnation of the divine Word. In Him dwelt to 
the full authority of the Word of God, with all its creative, 
healing, forgiving, comforting and renewing power. Regarding 
this unique fact, Allah foretold the birth of Christ to Mary 
personally, confirming to her the reality of that great miracle.
Mary personally faced the angel Gabriel, who was sent of God to 
kindly explain to her the work of the Holy Spirit in her. She is 
the only one chosen among all women

" O Mariam, God has chosen you and purified you;
He has chosen you above all women"
(The House of Imran 3:42).

we read in the Quran that the Son of Mary would be "most pure" 
from the moment of His birth; the angel said to her:

"I am but a messenger from your Lord, to give you a boy most 
pure"
(Mary 19: 19).

The Muslim scholar s al-Tabari, al-Baidawi, and al-Zamakhshari 
agreed that the statement most pure means blameless, guiltless 
and sinless. Before Christ was born, divine inspiration declared 
that the one who was to be born out of the Spirit of God would 
always live pure, without a single sin. There was no need to 
purify His heart, for He was Holy in Himself. The Son of Mary 
did not hear the Word of God only; He was it. There was no 
difference between His actions and His words. He remained 
blameless and without sin.

The Quran testifies several times that certain prophets 
committed specific sins - except Christ, who lived always 
blameless and pure. The Spirit of God kept Him, from His birth, 
and perfect holiness, despite the fact that He was human. He did 
not fall into temptation because He was the Spirit of God 
incarnate.

Christ, was born of the Spirit of God; He was the Word of God 
incarnate, living purely and in holiness from His birth.
God never sent the Angel Gabriel to Christ, and Christ never 
received inspiration through a third party. He Himself was the 
Truth incarnate (Mary 19:34),

The eternal Word of God, and a Spirit from Him, from within God, 
full of knowledge of His will. If anyone wants to study the will 
of God in depth, he should study the life of Christ carefully, 
for He is the incarnate will of the Almighty. The Quran tells us 
further that Allah Himself taught Christ the Book, wisdom, the 
Torah and the Gospel, before His incarnation:

"And He will teach Him the Book, the Wisdom,
the Torah, and the Gospel"
(House of Imran 3:48).

Christ knows all the secrets of heaven and earth, because Allah 
told Him all that had been written in the Heavenly Book (al-Lauh 
al-Mahfudh), including the whole Torah, the Wisdom of Solomon 
and the Gospel. So, Christ was full with the Word of God. He did 
not speak anything but the Words of God. According to the Quran, 
He uttered words of comfort and guidance to His mother, 
immediately after His birth, like an adult:

"But the one that was below her called to her, do not be 
sorrowful; see, your Lord has set below you a great person. 
Shake the palm- trunk, and there shall come tumbling around you 
dates fresh and ripe. Eat therefore, and drink, and be 
comforted; and if you see anyone, say: I have vowed to All- 
Merciful a fast. Today I will not speak to any man "
(Mary 19:24 - 26).

According to the Quran, Christ spoke the words of God when He 
was still an infant. He did not need an angel or middleman, 
because He is the Word of God and His Spirits. For this reason, 
the power of God worked in the Son of Mary, creating, healing, 
forgiving, comforting and regenerating.

The inspiration of Christ is "His own self". His Gospel is not a 
law but the revelation of His life, the description of His 
person. Moreover, Christ granted his followers the power of the 
Holy Spirit, so that they can fulfill his commandments. His 
disciples do not believe in a book or a religion primarily, 
neither do they live under a law; much more, they believe in a 
person. They hang on to Christ tightly, personally and follow 
him. Christ is the very inspiration of God.

The Quran testifies on behalf of Jesus, describing His unique 
works and supreme acts of healing. Christ did not curse His 
enemies, nor did he behave as a tyrant. He revealed himself as 
the fountain of kindness and the source of love and mercy. The 
power of God emanated from him by many wonderful signs that He 
performed.

THE BLESSED, GREATEST PHYSICIAN
The Quran confirms that Christ healed blind men without surgical 
procedures or medicine. He healed them by uttering powerful 
words. His words proved to have healing power then as well as 
now. Christ says according to the Quran:

"He made me blessed wherever I shall be"
(Mary 19:31)

"He is the true fountain of blessing to all people in all ages"
(The House of Imran 3:49; The Table 5:110)
.
The Son of Mary did not fear those afflicted with leprosy, but 
touched their skin and healed them with His purifying Word. 
Christ is the greatest Physician of all times. He loved the poor 
and received the sick. He created hope and faith in them. He 
healed sick people who were presented to Him.

HE RAISED THE DEAD
One of the greatest wonders of Christ was that He raised the 
dead; this is confirmed in the Quran as well as in the Gospel. 
He raised a young girl, a young man, and an adult from the dead. 
Who can raise the dead but God alone! It is of utmost importance 
for us to grasp the depth of the meaning in several Quranic 
verses that declare the undeniable fact that Christ raised the 
dead repeatedly (The house of Imran 3:49; The Table 5:110).

Some superficial critics say that the Son of Mary was not able 
to perform miracles on His own, but that it was God who 
strengthen Him through the Spirit of the Holy, enabling Him to 
accomplish the different wonders. They base their claim on the 
following Quranic verses:

"We gave Isa the son of Mariam the clear signs,
and strengthened Him with the Spirit of the Holy"
(The Cow 2:87).

"Those Messengers, we have preferred some above others; some 
there are to whom Allah spoke, and some He raised in rank, and 
we gave Isa, the son of Mariam, clear signs and strengthened Him 
with the Spirit of the Holy"
(The Cow 2:253).

"When Allah said, Isa Son of Mariam, remember My blessing upon 
you your mother, when I strengthened you with the Spirit of the 
Holy, to speak to men in the cradle, and as an adult; and when I 
taught you the Book, the wisdom, the Torah, the Gospel; and when 
you created the likeness of a bird out of clay, by My leave; 
then you breathed in it, then it was a (real) bird, by my leav